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That's been on the DS site for a while iirc - unless they have a box of NOS rusted ones.
Whats all this then .. DS for 11 quid ??https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB450K2-SUPER-SPORT-1969/part_334320/
Quote from: AshimotoK0 on March 07, 2023, 11:04:02 AMWhats all this then .. DS for 11 quid ??https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB450K2-SUPER-SPORT-1969/part_334320/Nice to be ignored. I posted the link a couple of days ago.
Thought I'd post some results on the DS rusty rods they are selling. I thought I'd order a few and see if they were able to be reclaimed, I thought 5 would be a good start and they arrived this morning along with some other bits I'd ordered. However I must warn anyone thinking of doing this, it seems to be pot luck what you get. At first I thought I'd got around 2 decent ones, 2 so so and 1 bad. I took some before and after pics of them so you can see what I recieved, you may be lucky and get a good one or you may be unlucky and get a bad one, whether they sorted them and send me the best ones available I couldn't say, not beyond the realms of possibilities.I graded them worst to best. Some had one end ok and some had both ends ok.The important part first. Apologies for poor quality pic. Worst is at the bottom. The important part here are the lines, there are 4 lines on a genuine rod, (and of course I only took a pic with the first 3 in DOH!!) the first 3 sections aren't that important TBH, they are inside the lifter mechanism and so long as that is intact and unbroken the rod will work fine, the important part is the 4th section, that's where the seal sits. You can see rust on the top rod in that section and as it turns out that rod was almost junk. As we'll see later. Now the end inside the clutch basket and also inside the clutch mushroom, not vitally important this section, it's covered in oil all the time so even a little rust won't go any further, so long as it's intact and the rust has been removed I'd say it's ok. What you can see on that pic is the condition of the alloy part of the rods, some surface staining and corrosion going on but nothing too bad. So that's before, let's see after. As I said before, it's the 4th section that's important and the top rod is badly corroded, it could possibly be reclaimed, maybe a smear of araldite and smoothing off afterwards could work. Bottom 3 rods are good in that area, the one next to top has some corrosion on the 4th section BUT it's not where the seals sweeps so that is also a good rod. In case you're wondering where exactly the seal sits it's about halfway down the 4th section and it goes inward about 5mm and outwards about 8mm, I think the inward movement is rebound from when the clutch slams shut. The outward is from the clutch lifter action. If you study Teds pic at the start of the thread you can clearly see the amount of sweep involved. Other end. Only the nearest rod had any significant corrosion but nothing major, doesn't matter as I said, very usable either way.So in conclusion, are they worth the money, yes if you get a good one, no if you get a bad one and a maybe if you get a so so one. Took me about 20 mins on each one to get them to that condition but I have the stuff to do that easily, by hand? a couple of hours work I reckon. Cost of a new genuine rod is around £70-80 or so, some as low as £50 but involve large amounts of postage and possibly import duties.A copy rod is as Ted says around £50. HOWEVER, Ted was correct in saying they are constructed in pieces (only 2 pieces looking at the pic on CMS) but incorrect in saying they are constructed the same, they are not. The copy rod only has 3 lines not 4 lines like the original, the part where the seal sweeps is actually on the rod not on the steel bonded section. Not sure what the rod is made of but if the seals sitting on alloy it won't wear the same as steel, if the rod is steel are we going to get the expansion (and possible clutch slip) when it gets hot that made Honda make the rod in 3 parts in the first place. The choice now is yours, take a chance or not.