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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2023, 08:52:19 AM »
Wave washer may work better for a kick starter.
Others on this forum perhaps have experience of that.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2023, 11:17:35 AM »
Would a plastic washer work for a floppy kick start too? It's a bit different I suppose as it doesn't have the rubber footrest, but might help squeeze it all together.
What exactly is floppy?
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2023, 11:36:33 AM »
Wave washer has a similar effect as a spring washer.


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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2023, 11:39:32 AM »
Would a plastic washer work for a floppy kick start too? It's a bit different I suppose as it doesn't have the rubber footrest, but might help squeeze it all together.
What exactly is floppy?
@ Skoti What is a wave washer?

Floppy means loose and wobbly, like a drunk man flopping about. 😁
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2023, 03:07:40 PM »
..and the bit that is floppy is the kick-start arm...it swings out instead of staying tight against the engine when not being used.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2023, 03:19:53 PM »
Pretty sure there's a ball bearing and spring involved in that Andy, like the choke mechanism on the 500/550 but bigger. Small indents on the knuckle part that allows the ball bearing to locate and stay in the position set. Could be the ball bearing stuck because the spring has rusted and broke or there's so much crap in the tunnel it lives in that it just can't move.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2023, 04:26:01 PM »
Thanks - I was just looking at an exploded parts diagram. The spring might be the first but to check/replace.one of those small 'to do list' jobs that I need to get round to!
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2023, 05:08:08 PM »
Ball bearing No.10, same as the 500 clutch push rod, got some of those NOS if you need one Andy. Spring not available but most likely something around that should do the trick.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2023, 09:37:38 PM »
I am not sure, what exactly this thread is about. Anyway, this (see pic) is the condition my rear pegs are in, when lowered. That's the sloppiness mine have. How can I address this gloomy hanging down?

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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2023, 09:40:20 PM »
Yikes that's worse than mine for being below horizontal - mine are all floppy when in the upright position as well.
Something for me to sort during the cold winter days.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2023, 10:26:36 PM »
That looks to be a 550F rear footrest not a 500. The 500 are straight mounts not bent.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2023, 08:30:16 AM »
No, the CB500K2 GENERAL EXPORT as well as the CB550K2 had these angled pegs.
Interestingly enough, I have seen pictures where they were angled forward and so by running parallel to the frame, stood out less, resulting in making the bike look more elegant.
I never use them, but what would be the remedy? I don't remember having read the remedy in the above?
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2023, 10:36:38 AM »
I had to put a couple of blobs of weld with the mig on the ends of the rests to straighten them on my K3.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2023, 03:44:14 PM »
That's my solution as well Johnny, doing the same with the front pegs as well. It's either that or spot weld a small piece of metal down into the bracket itself.

The 500K2 IMO is a mongrel, it's got bits of the 550 that they were producing at the same time, like they'd run out of certain parts for the 500 and just threw some 550 bit's on instead. It's a poor mans proper 500  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Parts book on CMS BTW shows them still fitted with straight brackets, the European 500K3 did have the bent brackets though.
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Re: Floppy rear footrests.
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2023, 07:51:19 PM »
The 500K2 IMO is a mongrel, it's got bits of the 550 that they were producing at the same time, like they'd run out of certain parts for the 500 and just threw some 550 bit's on instead. It's a poor mans proper 500  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Correct, just like the original CB500 Four shares parts with previous bikes. Now if you had the choice, would you like your bike share parts with previous bikes or rather contemporary ones?  ;D
Parts book on CMS BTW shows them still fitted with straight brackets, the European 500K3 did have the bent brackets though.
Incorrect. > https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb500k2-general-export_model50441/bracket-rpillion_50711374670/
I like my angled pillions. They are much more elegant. It's like with that grabrail, all these fine details: bigger clocks, better suspension, improved swingarm as well as an improved clutch mechanism and gearbox etc.
Another advantage of the pegs I have. The rider has the choice: you can have them angle rearwards or forward. When I got my bike, they were angled forward. That was convenient on long sustained rides. Without having to stop, I could lower them and have my feet rest on them for a while, to avoid muscle strain from sitting too long in the same position.
Here's a tip. I'm quite tall, 195cm and have therefore removed the rubbers from my front pegs. Really makes a diference in angling your legs. There's no disadvantage: when you know how to maintain your CB500 properly, vibrations will practically be absent. There's no risk your feet will ever slip of, as long as your shoe soles are OK. Recommended.

 

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