DVLA and frame numbers

[Orcade-Ian]

Thanks Chris for thinking I tackle most jobs - which I usually do, but I think I will pass on cutting out a headstock tube and welding in another which would involve some serious jig work.  I would have a go at the lower frame section though if that became necessary.  I have thought about just sending off the V5 with a frame change and see what happens.  If they insist on MSVA, an inspection and a Q plate I'll tell them I won't bother as it would be rather difficult living in Orkney and just keep the original.  As I haven't actually bought this frame yet, I might yet just break the damn thing, for although they are quite rare it doesn't really float my boat - plenty fours to go at yet!
Ian

Just a thought - I have a spare 350 four frame with log book (tax exempt too), so a cafe racer with this DOHC twin carb single motor might be nice!

[Ashdowner]

File over both numbers and stamp the old number on the replacement frame. I have a Honda I bought off the internet and when I took it for an MOT I discovered there was no frame number on the headstock and no vin plate. I rang up the DVLA who told me to stamp the number on the V5 onto the headstock. I did that, got it MOT'd and as far as I and the DVLA are concerned that is the end of the matter. In short the DVLA had absolutely no interest in why my frame had no number.

[Orcade-Ian]

Thanks for that, I might just ask them what to do with no frame number showing and see what they say.

Ian

[MarkCR750]

I don't think you can get an MOT without a frame (VIN) number , the previous post although I'm sure done in good faith doesn't sound legal, I'm sure trigger will comment soon he is well versed in such matters.

[Orcade-Ian]

Yes Mark you are spot on about an mot but what I was saying was that I might ask them what to do with a non visible frame number when I have the v5 with the number on - if that makes sense.
Best not say any more,
Ian

[MarkCR750]

My lips are sealed, didn't see nuffin guvnor.

[mike the bike]

I replaced a frame on a C90 with a brand new one, it didn't come with a number stamped on it so I had to stamp the number on myself.  I used the original number as that frame was scrapped.

[hairygit]

I replaced a frame on a C90 with a brand new one, it didn't come with a number stamped on it so I had to stamp the number on myself.  I used the original number as that frame was scrapped.

That is the totally correct and legal way of doing it. Changing the identity of a frame with an existing number is legally a no no, basically you could be attempting to conceal a stolen vehicle as plod would see it.

[hairygit]

Sorry if I worded that confusingly Oddjob. If you buy a frame from Honda it has no number stamped on it, you are supposed to stamp the number of the damaged frame on it, then destroy the old frame. Putting a different number on a previously stamped frame IS illegal.