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totty:
Bare metal is preferable if possible, I wouldn't reline if I could do a metal repair.
Trigger:
Can't remember why I thought the strip looked wrong. I would never trust a liner in a tank, if you are going for a paint job and suspecting a small hole, I would just go for a Yamiya tank set to be on the safe side.
Menno:
Lining looks a bit high to me. However in the old days they didn't place them every time at the same place either.
So, shipping is indeed something quite a few people worry about. Especialy Dutch people; they really don't want to send their stuff.
But until now nothing ever really happened while shipping. It helps though that the parcels are insured and that there is a tracking number on it.
Because of that number one can see which person delivered the parcel. That makes quite a lot of difference.
If you are seriously thinking of having your set painted by me I would indeed advise you to have me clean the tank inside out at this company near me.
They put the tank in several baths, one with chemicals heating up till 80 degrees. They litteraly boil the paint off with chemicals.
If the tank needs a new lining afterwards the tank is completely clean inside making a lining close to 100% effective.
Lining it is also very cheep while I don't have to do any prep work to line it. Since it has been cleaned chemicaly anyway.
Matching colours with candy depends on various things. Some colours are easier than other colours. Experience also helps a lot.
At first I bought ready candy paint but the more sets of one colour one paints the more you understand a colour.
I mix most of the candy colours myself now and often matches original paint not to see differences in colour.
I did a candy antares red for a member here on the forum and I was quite surprised the colour was spot on.
And last: on the 750's I do paint the lines as well.
AshimotoK0:
Hi Dave .. Bit of a conflict of interests here but Andrew literally does not have those facilities for cleaning the tank that Menno does and I think personally that would sway me. His process really is that good that my 500K0 tank looked NOS inside. Andy got the positioning of the stripes on my Ruby Red K0 tank from John Wyatt's book ..he got a freebie 'cos he's literally next door and they do work for each other. Lord knows if the positioning is correct .. I will get the tank out and photo it. I have only ever had one tank with liner in it and what I describe here was a schoolboy style 'gung-ho' ... mad moment ..fraught with danger.. mad-scientist method. I put a soft cloth into the tank and pushed it down to the bottom so that it 'wicked' up any excess (stale in my case) fuel. Did this a couple of times to remove as much old fuel as possible. Outside, I then I tipped a full 500g £1 shop tub of caustic soda pellets inside the tank so there was equal amounts in either side. Then, at arms length and with great caution, I poured a kettle of boiling water into the tank and buggered off sharpish. When it had cooled sufficiently I swilled the hot solution around the tank. You can imagine the exotherm that happened and scary, steamy vapours came wooshing out of the filler neck but afterwards I literally pulled a load of seaweed looking stuff from the tank, this being the remains of the liner. I guess the liner was the old 'Petseal' type material, not a modern epoxy. I don't think a properly formulated epoxy resin sealer would be touched by any modern fuel and no normal solvent or acid or caustic soda. It was take something like T.H.F. to remove it.
Yea that crank I sold you was a bit of a b*gger to pack but I was only doing what Bryan did for me when he sold me a crank & rods early on, when I was a newbie on here. I think James uses one of those plastic packing crates (likes of Halfords use them I think) for shipping his tanks to Menno and he must have sent quite a few backwards and forward.
Here are the remains of the liner after it dried out :-
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MrDavo:
'Mad scientist' has never been more appropraite Ash, b*gger that for a game of soldiers. It looks like my body kit will be going for a holiday in Germany then, a Yamiya kit is out of the question unless I win the lottery or sell the wife and cat. That said I've already probably chucked more money at the bike than it's really worth, but isn't that always the way? I refuse to add all the bills up, like when I raced classic bikes, if you knew how much you'd really spent you just wouldn't do it. One day my HM300s will inevitably rot through (well I will go using the bike!), then we'll see how deep my pockets really are. Yamiya currently has a NOS set at £3.5k, plus all the usual taxes etc.
A real geek point here, and not something I'll worry about, but the Yamiya K1 body kits have spot welds visible attaching the headlamp ears to the tubes that cover the fork legs, my bike doesn't have these, have they been filled in before painting? I'm not sad enough to dig the welds out, just interested.
To misquote Jaws, 'we're going to need a bigger box' - I have several large plastic storage boxes, but the biggest is not quite large enough, close but no cigar. Something like this may do it: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Really-Useful-Lightweight-Stackable-W440xD710xH310mm/dp/B000KN6HMW/ref=sr_1_3/262-2435160-8446762?ie=UTF8&qid=1504866417&sr=8-3&keywords=storage+boxes+with+lids+plastic but a bugger if it comes and everything doesn't quite fit. The fact that most are sold by Litres capacity not size doesn't help, I reckon 60x30x25 to get the tank in comfy, how much room is left for the other stuff reamins to be seen. I don't suppose Staples are going to let me turn up with the body kit to try their boxes out, but you never know.
I wonder if either Menno or James can point me at a box, or size of box, that they know works for a K0/K1 body kit?
Menno, can you pm me your address?, it will be a week or two before I am ready to send anything. Is the paint kit I bought from Andy Cepok http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-K0-K1-Color-Laque-Paint-Decal-Stripe-Kit-Set-Candy-Ruby-Red-R-4C-/291755643949 any use to you, or should I try and sell it on, if you'd rather mix your own paint? I know you won't want the stripes in any case.
If you don't need the paint I could even go back to torturing myself with the 'red or gold' debate for a couple of weeks! I know the correct answer is to have a bike in each colour.... 8)
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