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The 2040 ban on petrol vehicles
petermigreen:
--- Quote from: hairygit on August 05, 2017, 11:13:52 AM ---Question is, who or what is going to fund road building/repairs, at the moment fuel duty and road tax, but if the revenue from that dries up, bye bye free road tax for electric vehicles?
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Sorry but incorrect, there's no such thing as 'road tax' and 'road building/repairs' is paid for via general and local taxation. The tax you pay to use a vehicle is a tax on it's emissions, that's why electric vehicles, bicycles etc aren't liable for the tax.
check it out here.
http://ipayroadtax.com
hairygit:
That's an excuse of recent years to levy higher taxes on bigger vehicles! When road tax started, it was for road building/repairs, but recent governments have used the green lobby's ideas to rob motorists even more. If pollution was the reason for higher taxation, why are bikes still taxed by capacity instead of emissions? We are being conned as usual. As for global warming, that too is a con. 10,000 years ago Europe was covered in an ice sheet, the "Ice age" but then, over a 10-15 year period the planet warmed up, the ice melted, and we were left with lakes, rivers and oceans. That is scientifically proven fact, so were cavemen driving V8 Range rovers and using coal/oil fired power stations and factories????? Obviously not, the planet has been through many heating and cooling cycles over it's lifetime, "global warming" is just an excuse to tax the hell out of everything we need/rely on, oil, petrol, gas, electricity. Rant over!
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royhall:
Dont forget that if I live to be 80 the worlds population will have doubled in my lifetime. Is this not the real problem. Half as many people using energy is half as much pollution. Maybe Genocide will be in the next party manifesto's. They know they cant stop global warming for this reason, so why not get in there with the extra tax whilst the going's good. I agree, Rant Over.
SteveD CB500K0:
Be careful what you wish for.
Motorcycle manufacturers don't publish CO2 emissions figures but you can imagine that your average 200bhp/litre sportsbike makes as much CO2 as a Range Rover.
If we were taxed on emissions, we'd probably end up paying more.
Plus, none of my bikes gets anywhere near the fuel economy of my boring Ford Focus.
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Seabeowner:
Straying off subject again. But I'm always up for a discussion.
Road tax is apparently coming back: In the 2015 budget the government announced that from 2020 the revenue would be ring-fenced for expenditure on the strategic road network.
Certainly increasing Co2 in the atmosphere by 40% does have consequences. (everything does). How much is the question and it will be no bad thing (except for the bikes) when we move away from the age of coal, oil and gas. It is after all pretty primitive when you think about it.
Also apparently the banning of petrol/diesel is not enough for some as I read of the Air Pollutants from brakes and tyres and road abrasion of the future electric vehicles. Had to laugh at that one.
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