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Skoti
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Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 11:56:09 AM »
Hi,
can any one tell me how much radial play should be on a CB750 F1 front brake caliper holder (45115 392 003). I've just fitted a new holder and I still have a wee bit of radial play but maybe because it could be a repro part and not a genuine Honda part.
BTW I replaced the holder to reduce front brake judder.
please see photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/axeqMDTWX9aLG2D39
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Skoti
Motorcycling is Life, anything B4 or after is just waiting...
1976 Honda CB750F1
hairygit
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 12:01:35 PM »
Up and down play should be negligible, did you replace the arm and the pin?
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Skoti
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 12:05:30 PM »
Yes I replaced the arm and pin, please see photos.
Up and down play is about 1.5mm, is this normal?
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Skoti
Motorcycling is Life, anything B4 or after is just waiting...
1976 Honda CB750F1
hairygit
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 12:43:57 PM »
I would not worry too much about 1.5mm at the furthest point from the pivot. Make sure you give the pin a good coating of thick grease, that will help stop it seizing and wearing too fast, and some people drill and tap the arm at the pivot and fit a grease nipple.
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Skoti
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 12:56:34 PM »
Thanks for the reply,
Fitting a grease nipple to the holder seems a good idea.
The old holder and pin I replaced had a lot of play and a massive amount of front brake judder when braking lightly, the new holder has reduced that some what.
I was concerned that the new holder was a repro part and not up to Honda spec, but if a little play is normal then I have to live with a little brake judder.
Thanks again for your reply.
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Skoti
Motorcycling is Life, anything B4 or after is just waiting...
1976 Honda CB750F1
hairygit
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 02:00:01 PM »
I used to place a small "O" ring above and below the arm, it helped keep the grease in and water out, and will also take up any slack/judder. There are people on here , I think Trigger does it, that can bush the old arm and ream it back to stock size, so don't dump the old one!
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Trigger
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 02:23:21 PM »
Yep, don't bin your old ones girls and boys. I can refurbish them so that they work better than the original units
Try slacking off all three bolts , then push the pin up and tighten that bolt, then push the top bracket down and tighten up the top two. This should squish the 0 rings a tad.
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Spitfire
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 03:35:48 PM »
A bit late but I have just checked my F1 and 1 to 11/2 mm play is the same as mine.
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Dennis
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Skoti
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 05:17:08 PM »
Thanks for the replies.
Hairy Git, I have the 'O' rings fitted in the holder and the pin greased.
Dennis, thanks for measuring yours and reporting back.
Trigger, I'm going to follow your advice and slacken the 3 bolts and maybe push the pin up using a small 'G' clamp on the pin and top bracket. Perhaps that's why the 2 top bracket fixing holes are slightly slotted.
I'll keep the old stuff and PM you if I want them refurbished.
All good advice and help, thanks to everyone.
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Skoti
Motorcycling is Life, anything B4 or after is just waiting...
1976 Honda CB750F1
Skoti
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Re: Braking news (photos)
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July 24, 2018, 06:38:17 PM »
Update.
As Trigger suggested I slackened the 3 retaining bolts, then I decided to apply a 'G' clamp to the bottom of the pin and the top of the top bracket.
The top bracket pulled down a little and I notice the pin now stands proud through the top bracket whereas before it was more or less level with the top bracket.
This has taken away most of the play, I will road test the bike soon and report back regarding brake judder.
Thanks to all who commented.
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Skoti
Motorcycling is Life, anything B4 or after is just waiting...
1976 Honda CB750F1
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