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1978 Honda CB550 Supersport - My first retro bike rolling restoration!
Bryanj:
Now i have a diamond file to cure those points, you used to be able to get disposable flexi contact files.
It takes quite a bit of time and practice to get both the points gap(0.35mm) and the timing spot on the F as the gap alters when you move the plate and the timing alters with gap but getting it spot on is worth it.
As to the screws you get the standard answer "they are all like that sir" BECAUSE people use phillips screwdrivers instead of jis ones!
woody928:
--- Quote from: K2-K6 on May 23, 2020, 11:31:47 PM ---If no headlight available from the forum, these are good alternative https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product/986
Take H4 bulb of your choice, I use phillips white vision in them.
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Thanks for the link, that could be that I piece something together myself. I could use the plate linked above, one of these headlights and then pickup a surround too. It would certainly be a great upgrade, I'm a big fan of the Osram Nightbreaker Lazer range myself :)
--- Quote from: Bryanj on May 24, 2020, 06:55:26 AM ---Now i have a diamond file to cure those points, you used to be able to get disposable flexi contact files.
It takes quite a bit of time and practice to get both the points gap(0.35mm) and the timing spot on the F as the gap alters when you move the plate and the timing alters with gap but getting it spot on is worth it.
As to the screws you get the standard answer "they are all like that sir" BECAUSE people use phillips screwdrivers instead of jis ones!
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I'll go off and see what can be found, some small files for the collection could be invaluable. Being a novice I've been watching some extremely helpful youtube videos however I know there is going to be a lot of trial and error!
:'( I'm getting that impression, I'll confess I'd never heard of JIS screwdrivers before I bought the bike however they were my first purchase!
--- Quote from: Oddjob on May 24, 2020, 02:21:59 PM ---What's worrying about the pics of the points plate is that the wires are exposed on the condensers, they must be aftermarket as genuine Honda ones are potted on the end where the wire comes out. There is a risk of getting a shock with the wires exposed like that and I have to say as someone who's had more than a few belts from a charged condenser it's not a little belt either.
I'd imagine all the threads are now ruined on the 2.3 plate screw holes as those are most likely imperial screws and probably bigger than the original threads.
I found a complete points plate the other day lurking in a box in the shed, screws are in reasonable nick, PM me your address and I'll send it down as soon as I can get to the Post Office, genuine condensers and the points are in better condition as well. Plus it has a proper felt pad for lubing the advance/retard mechanism, that looks to be a piece of carpet.
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;D Honestly I'll bite your arm off with that offer! I'd been contemplating dropping a bomb on a Dynatek electronic ignition before that just to be done with. Thank you so much, PM now sent! 8)
Thanks for the warning, I won't be firing up the ignition again right now as it stands. All basic service items had been ordered with the exception of this area so it'll all get ripped out and replaced for peace of mind before attempting to start up again. As you say it looks like a mess :'(
I think what concerns me the most is the ham fisted repairs and 'maintenance' clearly carried out by the previous, previous owner. I just hope this isn't the tip of the iceburg. I'm just itching to get stuck in and get it sorted to get back out on the road again, I suppose its a miracle that the bike even managed the 40 odd mile ride home all things considered.
Bryanj:
A lot of failures reported with Dyna on US board
woody928:
--- Quote from: Bryanj on May 24, 2020, 04:21:03 PM ---A lot of failures reported with Dyna on US board
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Thanks for the warning, nothing seems perfect it seems.
--- Quote from: Oddjob on May 25, 2020, 03:03:13 AM ---Might be a couple of days or so before I post the points plate, need to clean it up a little as it's full of oily crap from the box it was in and I want to replace all the screws with new ones as even though they are pretty good it would be better if they were new. Won't have the electrical lead on it as I want that so muck around with but you can transfer your old one over no problem.
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No worries, I doubt it will be till next weekend that everything else will have been sorted in order to start up agin to see where I stand before tackling the carbs. Much appreciated that you're also taking the time to make it fully ship shape before sending it over! That's absolutely fine, I've not looked but would assume its a straightforward swap.
--- Quote from: Oddjob on May 25, 2020, 06:41:38 PM ---Found a left hand switchgear if your interested.
This is what you currently have.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handlebar-Switch-Turn-Signal-Left-For-Honda-CB-750-Four-K3-K6-550-360-400/184298717193?hash=item2ae90f4009:g:E1IAAOSwS8heyinx
And this is what you should have
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handlebar-Switch-Turn-Signal-Left-For-Honda-CB-400-500-K2-550-750K3-K6-Four/184285762361?hash=item2ae8499339:g:KQwAAOSwhrFeyipy
You can see the difference in the horn button arrangement.
Those are both copies BTW, they sell pretty cheap because of the quality of the switches inside IMO, not knocking them for what they are and if that's all you can get then they are worth having.
I have a genuine Honda one, in good condition, paint is still pretty black ( they do fade after a while even if kept indoors) all the bullet connectors are in good nick, no cut or soldered wires etc. I can test all the switches work etc. £45 inc P&P.
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Thanks for sharing and updating me, it now makes a lot more sense. You really have a keen eye to have spotted that! Ping me across your paypal details and I'll send you the money over :) Hopefully that's a straightforward case of just plugging the right bits in, nice that its an OEM quality piece too! Would certainly give some extra functionality and actually looks like one of the nicer OEM pieces to keep for my build. You'll get tired of hearing me saying thank you, however thanks yet again! ;D
Hopefully that can go with the points plate to save you on postage too.
SteveW:
On the subject of electronic ignition, I got mine from David Silvers. Have done over a 1000 miles on it and its never missed a beat.
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