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OAP Ted's CB400F2 rebuild - engine not run for about 12 years.
Nurse Julie:
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--- Quote from: Macabethiele on August 31, 2020, 12:29:51 PM ---Any advice as to best source for a replacement is it DS or DS for a petrol tap ?
Cheap one below knowing my luck it will not fit thought the CB400F2 is listed as suitable.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Honda-Petrol-Tap-Fuel-Petcock-CM185-CM200-XL100-CB400-XL125-XL175-XL185-XR/272559859130?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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The USA/Canada F2 uses a different part number than the rest of the world models - it looks different in photos, too. Not sure if they're interchangeable, though. That Ebay link looks like my USA-spec petcock, compare that to Julie's pic above:
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The eBay link you posted above Matt is the same fuel tap that DS sells for the 400/4.I did cross reference the DS part number a minute ago and I see it fits loads of different Hondas. I wouldn't know if the original one I posted a link to on CMS would fit a USA / Canada model, I must admit, I thought all the original taps were the same on all market models but maybe not 🤔
Edit.... Just looked and the USA/ Canada original tap is the same part number as every other market
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mattsz:
--- Quote from: Nurse Julie on September 05, 2020, 04:15:58 PM ---The eBay link you posted above Matt is the same fuel tap that DS sells for the 400/4.I did cross reference the DS part number a minute ago and I see it fits loads of different Hondas. I wouldn't know if the original one I posted a link to on CMS would fit a USA / Canada model, I must admit, I thought all the original taps were the same on all market models but maybe not 🤔
Edit.... Just looked and the USA/ Canada original tap is the same part number as every other market
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I don't know about all market models either! I'm definitely no expert here - although I have learned a lot about the differences between the '77 USA and all the other models...
I do know that CSML's 1977 USA listing shows a different part number, and a different-looking petcock, which I showed in my earlier post. That's why I mentioned it - that Ebay link was the OP's, I wanted him to make sure he was really looking at the correct part.
If you have a copy of the Honda parts catalog which includes CB400F, CB400F1 and CB400F2 "under one roof" (available in 2 different versions at this link), you'll find the different part number for just the USA/Canada F2 models: 16950-377-701.
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Nurse Julie:
--- Quote from: mattsz on September 05, 2020, 04:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nurse Julie on September 05, 2020, 04:15:58 PM ---The eBay link you posted above Matt is the same fuel tap that DS sells for the 400/4.I did cross reference the DS part number a minute ago and I see it fits loads of different Hondas. I wouldn't know if the original one I posted a link to on CMS would fit a USA / Canada model, I must admit, I thought all the original taps were the same on all market models but maybe not 🤔
Edit.... Just looked and the USA/ Canada original tap is the same part number as every other market
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I don't know about all market models either! I'm definitely no expert here - although I have learned a lot about the differences between the '77 USA and all the other models...
I do know that CSML's 1977 USA listing shows a different part number, and a different-looking petcock, which I showed in my earlier post. That's why I mentioned it - that Ebay link was the OP's, I wanted him to make sure he was really looking at the correct part.
If you have a copy of the Honda parts catalog which includes CB400F, CB400F1 and CB400F2 "under one roof" (available in 2 different versions at this link), you'll find the different part number for just the USA/Canada F2 models: 16950-377-701.
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That's weird, as it says that part number fits a CB125T2 ENGLAND PA.COCK.F, CB405F. But, there is then a supersession # being 16950377702 and that number shows the riveted type like you posted a pic of earlier. I really can't see what or why there is a difference in the original part though for USA/ Canada markets 🤔🤔It could always be an error in the original parts list translation, there are plenty of them in the parts manual.
mattsz:
--- Quote from: Nurse Julie on September 05, 2020, 05:16:41 PM ---I really can't see what or why there is a difference in the original part though for USA/ Canada markets 🤔🤔It could always be an error in the original parts list translation, there are plenty of them in the parts manual.
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I can't either. The "multi" parts manual I referenced earlier even has a separate "exclusive parts for each area" section which details some of the USA F2's idiosyncratic differences - like the single-stayed front fender, the different foot brake and shift linkages, the exhaust header attachment collars, the hideous fuel filler "door" - and the apparently non-serviceable (riveted?) petcock...
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Nurse Julie:
--- Quote from: mattsz on September 05, 2020, 05:52:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nurse Julie on September 05, 2020, 05:16:41 PM ---I really can't see what or why there is a difference in the original part though for USA/ Canada markets 🤔🤔It could always be an error in the original parts list translation, there are plenty of them in the parts manual.
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I can't either. The "multi" parts manual I referenced earlier even has a separate "exclusive parts for each area" section which details some of the USA F2's idiosyncratic differences - like the single-stayed front fender, the different foot brake and shift linkages, the exhaust header attachment collars, the hideous fuel filler "door" - and the apparently non-serviceable (riveted?) petcock...
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Have you asked the 400/4 owners on the USA forum what tap they have fitted?
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