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Ten years to go until electric...
UK Pete:
I would like to have electric car and bike, but certainly not now ,they are just not ready yet
But battery technology is moving really fast, and it's now been announced that 2030 is the cut off point and there will no longer be petrol/ diesel cars for sale new ,
I am a van person dont really use cars, its going to be a really long time before they can get commercial vehicles that will do the job, so I dont think I will ever see a van with the right price and range in my time left while able to drive
As for bikes, it really excites me that perhaps 5 years down the line there will be a decent bike with range and acceptable price,
Bring it on is what I say
But my passion will always be with the combustion engine
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Laverda Dave:
Like it or not it’s going to happen and we'll all be electric!
Like you though my concern is not with the technology of electric but the complete lack of infrastructure to support electric vehicles. I live in outer London where flats rule so how do the govt think these people are going to charge their cars and bikes from the 12 floor of a tower block? You are lucky to see a couple of charging points in a car park at shopping centres whilst very little if anything exists on the street. I can see residents of houses with no parking trailing leads from their letterboxes out to their cars parked in the street overnight. The ambulance chasing solicitors will have a field day claiming against the owners for leaving the charging leads across unlit pavements causing injury.
The raw materials to make the batteries are also running out even now and we haven't even started mass production yet! These materials are also dug from the ground, usually in remote areas, you know the kind of remote areas that mankind hasn't yet fully destroyed but that will soon change. The materials used in the batteries is also very nasty and difficult, if not impossible, to safely dispose of (but we can always dump it back into the pits where the raw materials were dug from!). There are quite a few Toyota Prius cars getting illegally dumped in the streets now their batteries have expired and the owners don't want to pay the scrapping fees.
I remember Top Gear a few years ago when it was good, and Clarkson tested the i8 BMW electric sports car against the 5 Series Alpine. He loved it, raved about it, thought it was the dogs B's. Until that is he reached the limit of the charge, it was about 200 miles under 'normal' driving but give it some beans and it was really poor. He then had the option of waiting a few hours at a motorway service station for it to charge or to jump into the old petrol Alpine 5 Series to get back home. Obviously he didn't wait around. And that sums up electric vs petrol (or diesel), convenience and ease of use, at the moment electric is a very poor second but it’s being pushed hard and soon we won't have any choice what we buy.
I won't be getting rid of any of my bikes anytime soon, the petrol companies will cry foul for starters and by the time petrol disappears for good I'll be too old to care!
I actually drove an electric vehicle 50 years ago; it was a Unigate milk float when our local milko let me have a go as a kid, even back then that could accelerate quickly!
Personally if I was botherd I would go out and buy a tuned to the eyeballs KH750 Kawasaki just to make sure I use up what fuel is left!
Rozabikes Tim:
Infrastructure again but Hydrogen cell seems to offer more flexibility. Pointless though, unless produced cleanly as most is currently made from hydrocarbons.
Athame57:
I reckon they will delay this a while myself, like the channel tunnel, a recent act of national redemption and the M25. By 2030 I'll be 73 and maybe I won't care anymore? ;)
Nurse Julie:
HM Gov get a very high income in the way of taxes from petrol/ diesel which they can't balance the books without. I won't be selling any of my bikes because of this plan. It won't be retrospective anyway and tbh, I think its a load of wishful thinking by the Gov.
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