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CB350 1971 Restoration Project
Menno:
I would like to add a comment on the paint story.
Using a candy only works if the base coat is reflecting.
By reflecting I mean a metallic layer or a flake.
Painting a candy over a plain colour takes away the typical candy effect.
Without this effect you might as well simply use a plain colour. It is easier to paint and the effect is completely the same.
That is why a plain red like light ruby red is a plain colour and no candy. There is no benefit at all - it only makes working with the colour more difficult.
For instance; the first Kawasaki z900 with the iconic paint in green yellow or brown orange is in base a black and white tank painted over with candy yellow or orange. However the plain black and white did not reflect anything at all so the painters found that they had to add metallic and pearl to get this effect which is quite difficult to paint. Without the metallic and pearl added in the candy the painters could simply have used plain yellow and a green metallic (or orange and brown metallic)
Point is: yes you can use candy ruby red over white - but it is actually useless for the candy effect. Therefore a plain red is easier and cheaper.
But don't let me stop anyone who would try it his or her on way.
Doing stuff your own way is modern and has huge benefits someone told me.
(And guys - girls I hope you all haven't lost your sense of humor jet).
Toko_Jo:
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BenPowell:
I tried all sorts of solid reds including the stuff that RS sells but it didn't have the 'hard to describe' glorious finish of the NOS Light Ruby Red part I have.
One for example was a modern red paint which in other forums is regarded a close match for the light ruby red, but honestly it just didn’t have the same depth of colour. To be quite honest, it looked dull and flat, as you would expect from a solid colour paint.
Honda were well into solid colours in 1971 so why experiment with candy over white base when they could just have used a close match solid colour.
It was obviously a problematic finish for Honda (or their sub contractor) because my tank was definitely original and had been painted 3 times ( posted a pic earlier).
The CB350K in Light Ruby Red never sold in the UK. All of the imports are sun faded 52 year old paint finishes , So it is difficult for anyone in the UK to appreciate the deep rich original finish.
The candy top coat I used is Max Meyer M277 (a modern Honda colour, which is normally used with its associated deep-gold M277 pearl base-coat.
I also tried seven different engine enamels in silver that Ash loaned me and decided on the Dupli-Color DE1615 stuff as it was the closest match I could find to the original factory finish. It's temperature spec will not be a problem because the head and barrels are unpainted on my model (and also the lower half of the crankcase).
Menno:
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Well this is also not true:
Menno:
Honda did not only use white as a base for light ruby red.
Honda also used orange as a base. Since it is much closer to red.
Candy ruby red over orange woild make a much darker colour.
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