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Any appetite for fighting the DVLA?
Seabeowner:
Talking of not getting a full refund, a few years ago I decided to pack up with newer motorbikes and just keep the classics. Had a ER6N and "sold" it to my lad for a song. Rang agent to cancel the insurance (think the premium was about £150 PA and the was about 4 months to run) and was expecting a small refund. They said that will be an EXTRA £20 then thank you very much!
After much discussion I told them if the wanted it their name would be mud.
K2-K6:
It should be streamlined to the point it doesn't exist.
All the negative arguments over the years of putting road duty onto fuel have disappeared with systems they have in place now.
What's the point of making an offence for the sake of it? Simplifying it to combine with collection through fuel purchase avoids millions in unwanted administrative activity.
You can't use a vehicle without fuel, by default they would all pay, while being used, in proportion to their status.
Laverda Dave:
Count me in Ian.
I've just had a response back today regarding another petition I signed about the impotation of honey bees into the UK from countries with known bee hive mites (a very bad situation if you keep honey bees).
Petitions do work if enough people sign them.
Dave
SumpMagnet:
The other 'issue' with the DVLA taxation revolves around all the foreign registered cars I see on the road. Bulgarian, Albanian, Lithuanian, Romanian.... why would people bring cars all that way to use them here. Simple. The taxation system doesn't pick them up. They are supposed to UK register them after a shoprt period, but that is never enforced.
The total reliance on ANPR is probably also sending parking tickets and other offences off to an empty apartment in Bucharest, Yuri Bugarov supposedly lives.
Charging such tax on fuel would avoid a large reason to dodge tax, remove issues with simple non payment, ensure those whose cars are not registered in the UK even though they live here pay the same, and actually charge people based on the amount of fuel they burn. Surely that is as fair as such a scheme could ever be?
Instead, we have the SORN ripoff, the double payment month every time a vehicle changes hands, and taxation whether you are using a vehicle or not.
Orcade-Ian:
Well it certainly looks like I've touched a raw nerve with this one, so I will liaise with MCTID and see if we can get something together - preferably as a petition or even just as a letter to our various MPs.
I'm not entirely sure about putting the VED on fuel, my reason being that a few years ago 70 odd percent of all cars registered were company vehicles, so they will just pass that extra cost onto us, the consumer. This would mean that the private motorist would pay twice. Btw, in that same year under 30% in Germany were company vehicles.
I had forgotten about the foreign vehicles - a good point worth including. As Brits, if we travel to Austria and Switzerland we have to pay to use the motorways, so why not sell the foreigners a compulsory ticket to use ours?
As I said previously, it might come to nought, but doing nothing will certainly not improve anything.
Ian
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