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Electronic ignition
Johnwebley:
I think the Boyer stator are just 2 coils in series mounted at 180degrees
If it was damaged, I assume you would get no sparks,
I had similar problem a few years ago,
It was a DSS coil breaking down,
I paid extra for Boyer original style coils, work ok now,
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AshimotoK0:
Interestingly, I looked back and John (Webley) got this reply a couple of years back.
Re: Advance curve
Boyer Bransden Electronics Ltd <help@boyerbransden.com>
Thank you for your enquiry, sorry we don't publish this information as we have a few secrets that do give us an edge. You may note that we fire all cylinders every 180 deg, this requires a little trickery, but it works.
Regards Tech Dept.
Hmm .. not sure they would take kindly to nerds like me de-potting their units to see how they 'tick'... but the Norton bloke obviously did just that in the late 90's and his findings are still out there on the net. If they are savvy anyway, they probably code-protect the chip (s) in their micro-digital version, so it would be more or less impossible to read the code and copy their system. Do they still sell a version of their original 'analogue' system?
Here is Ernie Bransdens original patent: No longer in force after the mid 90's ;)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/010462758/publication/GB1299853A?q=bransden%20ernest%20ignition
This is a good reference in the link below from Microchip (a chip manufacturer that I use all of the time) and one of these days I am going to make an EI based on this app. note. The one bike which would really benefit from EE with electronic advance etc. is the CB72/77. Honda mounted the auto-advance in between the two cams halves on this model and it's notorious for causing problems and very expensive to fix. There is a company in Germany that makes a crank mounted EI system which gets rave reviews but I don't think you get much change from £400 for their system (more than I paid for my bike !)
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/00001980C.pdf
K2-K6:
--- Quote from: Oddjob on January 27, 2022, 01:47:48 AM ---Ash, reading that Norton BB post made my head hurt. Shame on you picking on an old man.
--- End quote ---
;D if that one hurt, Ash's next one on microchip ignition will be visible from down here as Ken explodes :D
AshimotoK0:
Back to :-X :-X :-X then sorry :-[ :-[ :-[
Oddjob:
Green1, have you tried reverting back to points and condensers?
Ash, I have smoke coming out of my ears now, if I self combust I'm blaming you.
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