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royhall:
Here's one to watch for and the reason I got boned. I put on the form a value of £50 and it's a gift. Unfortunately I insured it for £300 which is roughly what two sets of carbs are worth, and they took that figure as it's value. But UPS also take £15 plus vat for collecting it although it is totally automatic. Nice line of work there. So I will have to get Gerben to return them without insurance.

K2-K6:
I guess technically they have zero value coming back as you aren't buying them, you already own them.

How duty is considered on a service supply I don't know.

SumpMagnet:
couple of things to note here.....from someone who worked in the parcels industry for nearly 30 years...

1) It's not a gift....and actually, its an offence to falsely declare items as gifts when they aren't. They could actually sieze them, and you don;t have a leg to stand on. It also gives them leeway to decide on a value and charge based on that, as your valuation is ignored. It's revenue fraud.

2) What you DO need to make clear is that the goods are sent to be worked on and then RE-IMPORTED to the UK. Not shipped out of the UK. The Dutch customs have treated them like you sold them.

3) Insurance valuations are often used to work out the true worth of goods. Especially when an exporter has massively different insurance to the declared value. But...as I have sen happen many times, when folks sell £300 of stuff and send it with a value of £25, they get quite nasty when the £25 cheque arrives for their missing goods.

People make false customs declarations to avoid duty so often, and have kind of got to think it's OK ..... like cyclists running red lights. Then, every now and again, it gets picked up....and the results are never pleasant. You have to consider how many times you bought or sold goods and avoided paying the VAT and duty and write off the times you get caught. Usually, unless your luck is really bad, the VAT man isn't winning.

royhall:
That's all well and good but where on the UPS website does it give you the opportunity to say it's being worked on then brought back into the UK. That option simply isn't there.

It's okay if you do this sort of thing on a daily basis as you get to know the system, but for users like myself the websites for postage are simply awful. They give no guidance whatsoever on how to post correctly from a customs point of view, and they all have a different way of doing it. The only way to not get ripped off is to find UK suppliers.

Not sure how you can say the VATman doesn't win, they win every single time.

Trigger:
It has nothing to do with UPS, they are only collecting on behalf of HMRC. It is your responsibility to know what the tax will be and fill out the forms in the correct manner  https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-outward-processing-to-process-or-repair-your-goods.

To move any good across borders is a mine field after coming out of europe  :o

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