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Oddjob:
I always spray the undersides of my tanks with Zinc182, if the paint is visible I overspray it satin black. I do this with every part I feel isn’t protected properly, insides of fork ears including the back of the ear itself, inside of handlebars, underside of rear mudguard etc. I’ve found doing this has extended the life of these parts. Cost of parts these days you need to ensure they last as long as possible. I intend to try and do the inside of the swinging arm this time, picked one up the other day and you could hear rust rattling around inside it, cleared the air holes at the back and the amount of rust particles that came out was amazing.
On my last set of exhausts I did the reverse side of them as that’s where the rust starts, found 2 of them in the shed last year, been there for over 40 years, in a damp environment as well, cleaned off the zinc spray and the metal was perfect underneath. They are still in excellent condition and I may end up selling them on eBay.
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Trigger on January 15, 2023, 10:10:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 15, 2023, 09:28:49 AM ---Does anyone list the RAL number for the Honda colours?
If you have that anyone can mix the paint to match?
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RAL is just a colour chart. Most Honda paint is a build up of layers to get the correct colour starting with a base coat. The only paint code that honda still use is NH-1 Black. ;)
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Yes RAL is just a colour chart - it's a good starting point in terms of reproducing any given colour. Reflectance, refractance, pigment quality. molecular chain length, colour fastness, metal flake sizes, gloss,silk etc paint medium used then of course the banning of Lead Chromate based pigments in many applications make paint manufacturing complex - not to mention water base v cellulose solvents.
Back in the 1960's following the widespread use of metallic paints in the automotive industry many repairers had problems matching colours in paint shops - as you say Graham layered application was one aspect. Two different painters could come out with two different finshed colours using the same paint & equipment.
An important aspect in reproducing colours on an industrial scale is the way that the component pigments are now consistently manufactured - the use of robotic spray booths has improved the end product no end.
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https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic#:~:text=The%20RAL%20Classic%20colors%20have,3%20digits%20are%20chosen%20sequentially.
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AshimotoK0:
--- Quote from: Moorey on January 15, 2023, 10:41:18 AM ---
RS paints use Lechler paint, my local paint shop told me any Lechler supplier should be able to make up anything RS can supply. He was
struggling to make up Antares red for me until i said RS can make it up. Onto the computer and job done and far cheaper than RS.
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Did they match it from the Honda name? Who was your local supplier ? ... worth knowing about. I know that all of the UK based painters I have used have never used RS because it's simply too expensive for them to make a decent profit. Their paint is Lechler but the clear isn't. Buggers tried to sell me basecoat for Honda Scarlet solid colour ?? at £21 for a 400ml aerosol .. when I quizzed them it's just white primer. I mixed my own paint in the end with 50% RAL signal red and 50% Kawasaki Vivo Red and it's a perfect match to what they sell.
Bryanj:
When i went to RS in Bradford, the father was running it and it was solvent based paints, they could not tell the difference between the two golds so was not impressed
Moorey:
--- Quote from: AshimotoK0 on January 15, 2023, 12:13:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Moorey on January 15, 2023, 10:41:18 AM ---
RS paints use Lechler paint, my local paint shop told me any Lechler supplier should be able to make up anything RS can supply. He was
struggling to make up Antares red for me until i said RS can make it up. Onto the computer and job done and far cheaper than RS.
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Did they match it from the Honda name? Who was your local supplier ? ... worth knowing about. I know that all of the UK based painters I have used have never used RS because it's simply too expensive for them to make a decent profit. Their paint is Lechler but the clear isn't. Buggers tried to sell me basecoat for Honda Scarlet solid colour ?? at £21 for a 400ml aerosol .. when I quizzed them it's just white primer. I mixed my own paint in the end with 50% RAL signal red and 50% Kawasaki Vivo Red and it's a perfect match to what they sell.
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I had told them the Honada paint name and given them the old paint code and they were unable to find anything from either of them and we had got down to looking at paint chips. It was only when i mentioned that RS did it was when he told me they use Lechler the same as them and trom there on it was no problem and spray cans were filled, They are only a small place and have a fb page. https://www.facebook.com/autopaintnorthern/
AutoPaint Northern Phone: 01924 410125 4B Union Rd, Liversedge WF15 7HW
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