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500 Kick start assembly.
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
I've just assembled the kick start parts in the lower casing - pretty sure I have all the springs & washers in the right order on the inside section - the shaft seems to have plenty of fore & aft movement. With the outer return spring in place there is no tension as such is this right?
Clearly worth getting it right before the casing go together as doing it via the sump would need the dexterity of a Gynaecologist.
.500 kick start by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr
Bryanj:
Assembly looks fine Ted, have you tried putting shaft spring tine 180 deg round?
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Bryanj on May 19, 2023, 01:36:36 PM ---Assembly looks fine Ted, have you tried putting shaft spring tine 180 deg round?
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I have not managed 180 degrees as that is a heck of a lot of tension - rotating the outer return spring some 60 degrees or so clockwise makes the inner pawl gear disengage.
Oddjob:
Most important you use a new circlip on that assembly Ted or they tend to fail not long after starting the engine.
I'm not sure that's right Ted, the gears IIRC should be disengaged, it's when the kickstart lever is moved downwards that the pressure forces the 2 parts together and that allows the bronze looking gear to move the gearbox thus moving the engine, it's supposed to spin free otherwise.
Been a while since I did one of these but that ramp on the inner gear is meant to engage with something but can't remember what now without one in my hands.
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Oddjob on May 19, 2023, 03:39:50 PM ---Most important you use a new circlip on that assembly Ted or they tend to fail not long after starting the engine.
I'm not sure that's right Ted, the gears IIRC should be disengaged, it's when the kickstart lever is moved downwards that the pressure forces the 2 parts together and that allows the bronze looking gear to move the gearbox thus moving the engine, it's supposed to spin free otherwise.
Been a while since I did one of these but that ramp on the inner gear is meant to engage with something but can't remember what now without one in my hands.
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Do you mean the inner smaller circlip or the one on the outer part of the shaft should be replaced Ken.
The photo I have taken of the inner section looks the same as the photo I took before dismantling as the pawl was engaged. It does not look or feel right to me - the steel end section that slots into the bottom of the casing has a complicated section that acts as a stop - the ramped casting on the inner pawl looks as though it should fit into it.
I will take it apart again & post the pictures of the section that I am talking about.
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