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It's a Sandcast Jim but not if we know it...
K2-K6:
Deep in memory, I have something like a tab on those cam cover gasket that stood out, but really can't be sure if true or where it was sited.
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McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Oddjob on June 06, 2023, 07:08:20 PM ---I wonder if Honda would have a claim to say the bikes been stolen if the dealers were instructed to scrap the machine and they clearly didn't comply.
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A theft charge would not cross the first evidential hurdle no dishonest appropriation of the property - that's my view.
That does not mean that Honda could not consider a civil claim to have the bike returned - I suspect a civil claim would be outside the time limits for such action - I know little about civil law.
Oddjob:
Surely it was dishonest of the dealer not to comply with specific instructions from the owner of the bike, Honda would assume the bike had been destroyed and they have never relinquished ownership so any subsequent ownership is null and void
Bryanj:
Dont know about a tab but remember needing a tube of evostick and 3 Honda "Blue Book" manuals to get the new gasket to stay in whilst refitting cover after tappet adjustment
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Oddjob on June 06, 2023, 09:05:10 PM ---Surely it was dishonest of the dealer not to comply with specific instructions from the owner of the bike, Honda would assume the bike had been destroyed and they have never relinquished ownership so any subsequent ownership is null and void
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The Theft Act 1968 does not define in law what is meant by "Dishonest" though it does give examples of what might "not be dishonest". If you give me £100 to help me buy a car but instead I spend it to go on holiday I have not dishonestly appropriated the £100 you gave me by doing something different with the money. That's before we even start with mens rea & actus reus.
Definitely an out of time Civil Law case - here in the UK it might have been impossible to first register the vehicle without the manufacturers V55/1 form from Honda. Today most new vehicles are registered directly by the supplying dealer via a special computerised direct registration system to DVLA - forgotten the name of the system - even so sometimes a dealer will use a V55/1 it's very similar to the V55/5 except it has extra codes from the manufacturer as well as the Engine & Chassis numbers plus other stuff.
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