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USE OF BUS LANES
Rozabikes Tim:
Just thinking about this from a non bikers point if view as their opinion will be very relevant.
Having driven down to the centre of London last week in the car, I found it quite stressful as a country bumpkin!! There were a number of occasions when I really questioned the safety awareness of some of the delivery scooters. Cutting in front at some speed and then moving into an adjacent lane with no notice (all in one move) etc. I am a biker and we all know there are some idiots out there just like the cars, vans and trucks.
I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary. Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
Athame57:
--- Quote from: Rozabikes Tim on April 29, 2024, 10:43:57 AM ---
I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary. Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
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As far as I've ever known since I returned to biking six years ago we are allowed in the bus lanes. The scooter delivery riders are mostly food express or worse, but certainly more law abiding than the average cyclist who seems to think the law is advisory only.
I rode as a realdespatch rider in the 1980-90s before technology broke the industry. Our mission was not very compatible with the law ;)
Laverda Dave:
--- Quote from: Athame57 on April 29, 2024, 11:21:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rozabikes Tim on April 29, 2024, 10:43:57 AM ---
I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary. Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
--- End quote ---
As far as I've ever known since I returned to biking six years ago we are allowed in the bus lanes. The scooter delivery riders are mostly food express or worse, but certainly more law abiding than the average cyclist who seems to think the law is advisory only.
I rode as a realdespatch rider in the 1980-90s before technology broke the industry. Our mission was not very compatible with the law ;)
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9/10 of the delivery scooter riders in London do not carry business insurance required by law if a vehicle is being used for business purposes. Therefore if you get hit by one of these idiots you are on your own. As for law abiding, no way. I was out walking a couple of weeks ago when I came across the road being dug up and a three way traffic light system was in operation. Two scooter riders could be bothered to wait and rode up on the pavement coming past me at 20-30mph. They ride around using their phones and disregard any road signs frequently riding in cycle lanes. The like of Deliveroo allow a scooter riders to have an account with them with up to 10 substitute riders on the same account. It is up to the account holder to check the substitutes have insurance and a licence etc, Deliveroo don't want to know as the rider is classed as self employed. This is where the illegals are finding easy work and this government allows it to go unchecked. The mayor of London bleating on about safer streets etc but he does nothing about this but turns a blind eye. I went to a neighborhood watch meeting two weeks ago and a number of women spoke up saying how they have ordered takeaways from Deliveroo and specifically asked for a female to deliver it, and the app shows the female rider but when it turns up it is delivered by a male.
These scooters are a menace, they are not interested in biking at all, they are a means to earn money with little outlay.
Athame57:
--- Quote from: Laverda Dave on April 29, 2024, 11:41:09 AM ---These scooters are a menace, they are not interested in biking at all, they are a means to earn money with little outlay.
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I know for a damn fact many are also on benefits too!
taysidedragon:
Done. 👍
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