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Electric vehicle.
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
My Son-in-Law runs a firms Ford Mach-E he has had it for about 18 months or so - it does have a decent range 260 or so miles.
If you have to use a public charging point it's as expensive as a Petrol vehicle to run. Home charging with a special EV tariff seems to be the way forwards.
The difficulty as I see it with a fully EV is when the battery fails most all electric cars will be worthless, I do know some Merc hybrids are failing in under 10 years with replacement battery units costing close to £10k for a hybrid.
I do like the idea of the optional range extenders on the early small BMW i3 that had the abilty to charge the battery as you were driving. I ended up replacing our 19 year old Jeep G.C .3.0 CRD with a Volvo XC40 MHPV as a compromise for the cheaper VED.
I suspect there is a lot of development work still to come not just in battery construction materials but also in terms of electric motor types e.g. Axial Flux or Radial Flux plus some sort of commonality on what voltage electric motor is used.
IMHO buying an all EV is presently on a par with the original Ford Model T in terms of the development curve.
Moorey:
More and more vehicle manufacturers are dropping or scaling back EV production and going down the Hydrogen route. Even
Tesla are making a Hydrogen fuel car, or as Elon used to call them not long ago Hydrogen fool cells. Battery only EVs will end up
the Betamax of the car world. IMHO.
Seabeowner:
--- Quote from: AshimotoK0 on May 27, 2024, 01:36:16 PM ---My wife has a 2023 Jazz Hybrid .. complicated yea but does 67 mpg even around town
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These days if your family car doesn't do at least 50mpg (if you stick to the speed limits) then you either have the wrong car or want to waste money. So actually petrol cost in miles per £ is cheaper than ever.
A pity the cheap electric cars look like they will not be available so as to protect western manufacturing which is lagging behind. T introduced a 25% tax and now B has upped it to 100% in the US on Chinese imports. Expect protection here also.
Renault Zoe is very old technology.
Johnny4428:
Interesting comments guys and agree with all said. A tv programme came on the night before I went away to pick up vehicle and it was a feature regarding cost comparisons from a survey/tests carried out by the RAC. Results were an EV charged from home on average was around 7p per mile, a petrol/diesel was 17p per mile and an EV charged with fast/rapid public chargers 22p per mile. I agree it’s early days still with alternative fuel options and not convinced it’s going to be electric but we may not be around when the new fuel becomes the norm, so for the moment I’m happy to give the electric a go. We’ve got the diesel burner as well in the form of a Trafic crew van and that is what we take on the long runs off the island because we need the carrying capacity. For instance today we have done about 6 miles in the car and that will be similar tomorrow. Alas don’t panick guys I haven’t lost enough marbles to go out and buy an e motorcycle! 😂😂😂
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
--- Quote from: Seabeowner on May 27, 2024, 07:03:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: AshimotoK0 on May 27, 2024, 01:36:16 PM ---My wife has a 2023 Jazz Hybrid .. complicated yea but does 67 mpg even around town
--- End quote ---
These days if your family car doesn't do at least 50mpg (if you stick to the speed limits) then you either have the wrong car or want to waste money. So actually petrol cost in miles per £ is cheaper than ever.
A pity the cheap electric cars look like they will not be available so as to protect western manufacturing which is lagging behind. T introduced a 25% tax and now B has upped it to 100% in the US on Chinese imports. Expect protection here also.
Renault Zoe is very old technology.
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IMHO mpg be it 25 mpg or 50 mpg is not the main cost of car ownership so it has never been a factor for me - we feel it is as its a weekly or monthly cost to fill up with fuel. Doubling your mpg does not halve your true cost per mile of motoring even more so if you drive less than 5k miles in a year (I drive closer to 3k p.a. now).
The largest single costs for most private motorists is depreciation, plus other overheads such as Insurance, maintainence , Mot plus where applicable VED. Then there is the cost of buying a replacement vehicle that has gone up due to inflation. I buy used, I tend to keep a car for at least five years - my record for ownership is 12 years. Increasing maintainence costs tend to be the decider when it comes to change. My current XC40 is the most expensive car I have ever bought in my life by a consderable multiplier (4) - I splashed out as it will be my last one so treated myself after 59 years of motoring.
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