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AshimotoK0:

--- Quote from: Bryanj on June 26, 2024, 09:33:02 AM ---I think so for the USA,
To frther explain he paint code question, which is asked probably once a month, Honda never used industry standard paint codes for their colours plus most of the metallics are 3 stage "candy" colours which have a metallic base, transparent colour(which changes depending on depth of coats) and topped with a laquer. All of these were and are isocyanate paints requiring a lot of special gear to spray safely.
Appologies if my previous answer was terse but i do get fed up of answering the same question time and agaiin when the search function works

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Pretty sure it's only the clear coat which contains isocyanates Bryan. The base coat paints I have had from RS COB and water based did not contain iso. They also sell solid colours in cellulose. RS also sell a non-isocyanate clear but I gather it takes ages to harden. Most of their base paints are made by Lechler which is a mid quality brand.

I am just base coating my CB250RSA with Nassau Blue pearl and the paint was just over £60 delivered which thins to 2 litres of paint. All of RS's paint is pre-thinned ...imagine how much they would charge for 2l of paint plus shipping. Amazingly, I used Honda's paint 'code/ref' PB-112M to find it online.

beardylondon:
Thanks for the info.

How much paint would I need to buy for the tank and 2 side panels?

@Julie, yes my bike is USA Model.

AshimotoK0:

--- Quote from: beardylondon on June 26, 2024, 10:38:15 AM ---Thanks for the info.

How much paint would I need to buy for the tank and 2 side panels?

@Julie, yes my bike is USA Model.

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Menno is really your go-to guy on here for this information. The only advice I can offer is my friend had his CB500K2 tank and side panels done in Candy Green and he bought 0.5l of metallic ground-coat and 0.5l candy coat (this was from RS and was pre-thinned solvent paint). There was still a fair bit left over afterwards. As Bryan correctly  says, the clear-coat would almost certainly be isocyanate based and needs proper air fed mask to apply. Most paint shops have gallons of the stuff on the shelf. Mipa CX clear-coat is a decent quality product or Spraymax gloss finish 2k if using aerosols. Both of these are isocyanate cured.

beardylondon:
Thanks Ash!

Just so im clear, I cant see options for metallic ground-coat and candy coat?

I guess I should call them.


--- Quote from: AshimotoK0 on June 26, 2024, 11:11:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: beardylondon on June 26, 2024, 10:38:15 AM ---Thanks for the info.

How much paint would I need to buy for the tank and 2 side panels?

@Julie, yes my bike is USA Model.

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Menno is really your go-to guy on here for this information. The only advice I can offer is my friend had his CB500K2 tank and side panels done in Candy Green and he bought 0.5l of metallic ground-coat and 0.5l candy coat (this was from RS and was pre-thinned solvent paint). There was still a fair bit left over afterwards. As Bryan correctly  says, the clear-coat would almost certainly be isocyanate based and needs proper air fed mask to apply. Most paint shops have gallons of the stuff on the shelf. Mipa CX clear-coat is a decent quality product or Spraymax gloss finish 2k if using aerosols. Both of these are isocyanate cured.

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beardylondon:
This says there are Honda paint codes....

http://www.vsource.org/VFR-RVF_files/BHondaPaintCodes.htm

Candy Sapphire Blue is PB-3C-C. Whether or not a modern paint shop can interrupt them is another matter!

here a photo of an old tin:

https://www.instagram.com/p/teSmJZAViS


--- Quote from: Bryanj on June 26, 2024, 09:33:02 AM ---I think so for the USA,
To frther explain he paint code question, which is asked probably once a month, Honda never used industry standard paint codes for their colours plus most of the metallics are 3 stage "candy" colours which have a metallic base, transparent colour(which changes depending on depth of coats) and topped with a laquer. All of these were and are isocyanate paints requiring a lot of special gear to spray safely.
Appologies if my previous answer was terse but i do get fed up of answering the same question time and agaiin when the search function works

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