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Offline Laverda Dave

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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2024, 11:06:08 PM »
Well done for removing the engine on your own Andy.
Happy to help with the heavy lifting when required. I'm going on holiday from 29th Aug until 22nd September but available all other times👍
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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2024, 05:14:47 PM »
All done!!
Thanks again for help and advice on getting this done.

Enjoy your holiday Dave, managed to lift the engine back in and it wasn't too bad in the end - it's more awkward than heavy to get wiggled into the frame.
Not bad with the 250, not sure I'd try with anything bigger any more!
All back together and polished back up.
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Interesting on the seal as I bought an original Honda one (as used in the first build) but also a pattern one from eBay out of interest.
The pattern one is nothing like the original and has no locating lug and worse has no holes for the oil passage in the casing - photos shows the differences.
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Pattern seal would be easier to replace without splitting the cases but clearly wouldn't be right - I wonder how critical that oil passage is and how many engines now have this blanked off.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2024, 05:28:19 PM »
Another technology fail with posting - this time only one picture appeared!
Hope these appear this time - finished (again) bike and pattern seal with missing oil passageway
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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2024, 07:46:57 PM »
The bike looks fabulous! It brings back fond memories of my mate Steve who had a yellow one: the 'Flying Banana'. I rode on the back of it often down to the Railway Hotel in Bishops Stortford when I lived down that way - I had hair then :-)

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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2024, 09:14:57 PM »
Thats a 350/400 four seal and i know they need the peg

Offline Laverda Dave

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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2024, 08:17:45 AM »
That looks amazing Andy, well done for the single handed lifting in and out!
Is this the original 250 you restored or is this the second one you had in bits a couple of years ago?
I'm sure if you were to sell it Mr Silver may be interested as I don't think he has one of these in his collection.
1976 Honda 400/4
1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30

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Re: Final Drive Seal
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2024, 11:43:51 AM »
You're right Bryan, it's the same seal on both bikes.
I'm not sure if the 400 also used the oil passage through the seal like the CJ but guess it would if it's the same part.
It always amazes me how poor some of these pattern parts are either in accuracy of manufacture or simply not being anything like the correct part.
Of course most sellers don't know or care so just copy the details over from the manufacturer no matter how inaccurate (or badly written).

Dave - thanks, yes this is the first one rebuilt a while ago, now going through the first round of fixing problems and leaks etc. after a bit of running.
Oil leak was a pain being a lot of work for a small part and afterwards nothing really to show for it but can't be avoided.
A couple of final bits to sort / tidy and she should be finished at last (until the next leak / noise / problem pops up of course).
Also replaced the steering head bearings as I wasn't happy with the roller ones I originally used - gone back to original ballbearings for top and now assembly feels much better.

Got the CJ360T rebuilt as well a while ago but only to a more 'lived-in' standard, ready to fill with oil and petrol and see if she runs well.
I'd put it on the backburner while trying to 'quickly' get the XT250 on the road as initially hoped this would be a simple tidy-up.
Of course that changed on closer inspection and has been fully stripped and rebuilt and still needs a few bits sorting but nearly there.
She'd had a really hard life and the PO had repaired / bodged just about every part of the bike and engine so has been a pretty extensive mechanical rebuild.
To be fair I can't complain too much as I happily remember some very interesting 'field repairs' as we called them back in the day which would horrify anyone digging up one of our old bikes now!

Cheers,
Andy

 

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