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Offline DomP

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Choosing a colour for a paint job
« on: August 03, 2024, 03:05:27 PM »
Soon I'll hopefully be arranging a respray on my tatty tank and side covers, I'd originally decided in my head on a grey/graphite with a greeny gold metallic if that makes sense but I can't find what I've got in my minds eye.  More recently I wondered if I should go a bit brighter with more of a full on green, how does everyone else chose a colour when respraying?  Will paint shops be able help me with colour swatches, I've only ever had colour matching done before so just left them to it. 
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2024, 03:12:03 PM »
If you are not bothered about an original Honda colour Vauxhall made a metallic colour for the old HC Vivas called "Goodwood Green Starmist" they made a range of Starmist colours - pretty sure you can get them made up at a decent paint stockists.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2024, 03:26:35 PM »
Soon I'll hopefully be arranging a respray on my tatty tank and side covers, I'd originally decided in my head on a grey/graphite with a greeny gold metallic if that makes sense but I can't find what I've got in my minds eye.  More recently I wondered if I should go a bit brighter with more of a full on green, how does everyone else chose a colour when respraying?  Will paint shops be able help me with colour swatches, I've only ever had colour matching done before so just left them to it.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PM »
Soon I'll hopefully be arranging a respray on my tatty tank and side covers, I'd originally decided in my head on a grey/graphite with a greeny gold metallic if that makes sense but I can't find what I've got in my minds eye.  More recently I wondered if I should go a bit brighter with more of a full on green, how does everyone else chose a colour when respraying?  Will paint shops be able help me with colour swatches, I've only ever had colour matching done before so just left them to it.
Contact Julie,

I am 99% certain she can supply bushes

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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2024, 04:16:50 PM »
If you are planning to do a rattle can paint job yourself RUST-OLEUM do some metallic greens, although it's American there are UK suppliers but not all colours available.
Rust-Oleum has a decent cover being chip reistant - easy to find options online.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2024, 06:30:33 AM »
I thought I'd replied to this but it's not here so I must have had a glitch.

I've been looking around carparks for a while now John, I'm beginning to look like an opportunist car thief😀

I want a fuel resistant and a really good finish Ted si I think that rules out rustoleum......and me doing it!


*I've  been thinking about this, I want a single colour so maybe not beyond my capabilities just that I'm concerned I won't get a durable and deep shine finish with rattle cans.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2024, 10:40:24 AM »
FWIW Rust-Olem is petrol resistant - although they have a good nozzle you will probably not get the finish you desire. IIRC it works on all manner of materials so side panels would be good

Certainly in the car trade Greens were like Beige not a popular choice on new vehicles. I haven't seen a new car in metallic green for ages.

Be interesting to read what you choose and any comments - I am still reminded by a few members of my plan to paint the 500 frame in Nut Brown. In the end I saw sense so it's a boring  mattish black.
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Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2024, 11:48:22 AM »
FWIW Rust-Olem is petrol resistant - although they have a good nozzle you will probably not get the finish you desire. IIRC it works on all manner of materials so side panels would be good


I doubt whether any 1k paint is truly E10 fuel resistant Ted. I bought some that was supposedly petrol resistant and it was sh*te

You really need 2k IMHO.  Like this

 https://www.spraymax.com/en/products/product/clear-coats-and-spot-blender/2k-clear-coat/

Or if it's a solid colour then 2k aerosol by ProXL. something like :  https://www.paints4u.com/Customer/ProductDetails/Index/11983
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2024, 12:58:13 PM »
I had to Google what 1k & 2k meant - is there a 2k clear lacquer that seals 1k or do you get a crozling / paint reaction?
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Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2024, 03:06:11 PM »
I had to Google what 1k & 2k meant - is there a 2k clear lacquer that seals 1k or do you get a crozling / paint reaction?

Most classics these days are painted in solvent base-coat (RS call it C.O.B.) and then clear coated in 2k clear-coat Ted. Modern vehicles are done in water-based paint and then clear coated in 2K.

I have clear coated COB from RS, cellulose, water-based,  etc  .. I just clear coated my friends CB160 tank which he had painted in some cheap and nasty rattle can (cellulose or acrylic ..think Autotek or similar) and never got a reaction .

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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2024, 03:44:29 PM »
I do think I prefer a grey or gunmetal with a fancy metallic in it to give it a bit of wow factor.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2024, 07:25:49 PM »
I do think I prefer a grey or gunmetal with a fancy metallic in it to give it a bit of wow factor.

Honda CD175A 1967-69 was a dark metallic. It is Honda code XE. They called it 'Black Metallic' but is really a dark grey.
RS Bikepaints call it Honda 'Lava Grey' (not to be confused with VAG Lava Grey).

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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2024, 09:55:38 PM »
There is an interesting YouTube clip by Classic Octane about how to paint a petrol tank and side panels with rattle cans. As luck would have it the colour is a ,etallic green and it’s a CB550 tank. That is worth a watch just to get a feel as to whether you want to have a bash yourself or not. Once I have the dents pulled out on my tank I’m going to have a go. If you can’t find the link I can dig around and post it?

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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2024, 06:55:21 AM »
Just watched that video Mike, for the relatively small outlay I think it's worth attempting if I can get my garage warm enough when I do it...might be into autumn as I've got a workshop to build.   I'm not sure his mask was upto 2k spraying though, I've got a very similar one I use  fitting kitchens that'll take 'chemical rated' filters but I thought 2k needed an air fed mask.
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Re: Choosing a colour for a paint job
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2024, 07:40:24 AM »
Just watched that video Mike, for the relatively small outlay I think it's worth attempting if I can get my garage warm enough when I do it...might be into autumn as I've got a workshop to build.   I'm not sure his mask was upto 2k spraying though, I've got a very similar one I use  fitting kitchens that'll take 'chemical rated' filters but I thought 2k needed an air fed mask.

There is a disposable ( after quite a few hours of use) mask made by Gerson that sellers on eBay claim is 2k isocyanate safe ..it has carbon filters. I challenged one of the sellers that it is indeed safe for 2K and they backed off saying it isn't although people do use it when spraying outdoors. You really need an air-fed mask. Problem with that is you need a fairly large compressor and filtered air to run one. If you are going to use the Gerson type mask then I would try to clear coat outdoors on a calm, walm day. Don't worry too much about the old bit of tiny crap landing  on the paint as to get a super finish you need to flat and polish anyway. Having said that you can get a really nice orange-peel free coat using the Spraymax 2k clear coat aerosols

https://www.alloypaints.com/gerson-2k-disposable-paint-spray-respirator-face-mask-medium-large-72-p.asp
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