A steering lock stop issue.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

It's part of the Mot requirements - see attached article.

.https://fasttrackmotorcycles.co.uk/mot/mot-checks/steering-and-suspension/

[Mikep328]

Yep...took my wife's 750 Honda in for an MOT last week and actually observed the mech checking the steering stop(s)!

Of course, due to their age, no MOT is necessary for these bikes though I have to admit that while happy about that, I don't understand the logic.  Who decided that a 40+ year old vehicle DOESN"T need a periodic safety inspection whereas a three year old vehicle does? Makes no sense...but it's convenient! 

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I suspect the legislation was introduced primarily for old cars as a result of lobying with a lot of sympathetic enthusiasts in both houses of Parliament.

Our local MP at the time Greg Night iirc had a collection of old vehicles employing a retired mechanic (Gerald RIP) who looked after his fleet of mainly early post war vehicles. Greg's house was impressive but his purpose built garages more so, when he lost his seat he sold up and presumably returned to live nearer London where he was a Barrister.

[Laverda Dave]

I've read a rumour the government are going to scrap the 40+ year rolling free tax for historic vehicles as a way of clawing some more cash back from the hapless population. This happened once before when Gordon Brown scrapped the 25 year rolling tax exemption. My concern will be if the rumour is true and not only do the scrap the rolling 40 year exemption but scrap the whole thing altogether especially considering the current thinking of the climate control measures the strategy to have us all walking everywhere by 2035!
I just hope it stays as a rumour 😕.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I can't see they would raise that much money although they could freeze the date and stop it being a rolling date.
I would just tax my bikes in the summer and cash it in when it gets cold so three months for Mr Starmer.
Be easier to make all Electric Cars Pay VED, not sure why you can pay 7p per kwh to charge your car but you have to pay 25 p per kwh or more for your home.

[Bryanj]

I think they were talking about the mot exemptionfor safety, the original reasoning was that "classic" vehicles do a lot less mile and are looked after like favourite babies by their owners

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

An Mot once a year would be  fine with me tbh.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I can't see they would raise that much money although they could freeze the date and stop it being a rolling date.
I would just tax my bikes in the summer and cash it in when it gets cold so three months VEL duty for Mr Starmer.
Be easier to make all Electric Cars Pay VED, not sure why you can pay 7p per kwh to charge your car but you have to pay 25 p per kwh or more for your home.

[Seabeowner]

Be easier to make all Electric Cars Pay VED, not sure why you can pay 7p per kwh to charge your car but you have to pay 25 p per kwh or more for your home.

VED is payable on electric cars from next year.
Certainly having to pay VED and MoT for classic vehicles would hit the many enthusiasts who have a collection of old vehicles. There has been some stories of using classics for everyday transport as they get round the duty and are ULEZ exempt. I know is Australia (maybe only some states) you are restricted to a maximum number of days a year and have to carry a log showing the days used.

[Athame57]

Oh well! I had better get this one sorted properly then. 

[Athame57]

There has been some stories of using classics for everyday transport as they get round the duty and are ULEZ exempt. I know is Australia (maybe only some states) you are restricted to a maximum number of days a year and have to carry a log showing the days used.

Well for me that is certainly true to a point, I couldn't afford ULEZ as a nearly daily rider living a mile from the tower Bridge, but I opted to go classic when I returned to biking six years ago after a break of about twenty years because I looked at modern bikes and thought 'no'.
I could picture the mayor of London and the PM backtracking on these sort of exemptions though.

[TrickyMicky]

There has been some stories of using classics for everyday transport as they get round the duty and are ULEZ exempt. I know is Australia (maybe only some states) you are restricted to a maximum number of days a year and have to carry a log showing the days used.

Well for me that is certainly true to a point, I couldn't afford ULEZ as a nearly daily rider living a mile from the tower Bridge, but I opted to go classic when I returned to biking six years ago after a break of about twenty years because I looked at modern bikes and thought 'no'.
I could picture the mayor of London and the PM backtracking on these sort of exemptions though.

  I'm afraid the Mayor of London is nothing more than a money grabbing s***bag.  He is not bothered by vehicle pollution at all.  It is NOT illegal to drive a polluting vehicle in London, as long as you are willing to pay the daily charge then you can pollute as much as you like.  I think I'm right in saying that in some cities, like Edinburgh possibly, it is a criminal offence for which you can be fined, not just given a PCN. London never stops looking for ways to extract money from people. Who knows, if he collects enough he might be able to afford a necktie and even look like a Mayor.

[Laverda Dave]

There has been some stories of using classics for everyday transport as they get round the duty and are ULEZ exempt. I know is Australia (maybe only some states) you are restricted to a maximum number of days a year and have to carry a log showing the days used.

Well for me that is certainly true to a point, I couldn't afford ULEZ as a nearly daily rider living a mile from the tower Bridge, but I opted to go classic when I returned to biking six years ago after a break of about twenty years because I looked at modern bikes and thought 'no'.
I could picture the mayor of London and the PM backtracking on these sort of exemptions though.

  I'm afraid the Mayor of London is nothing more than a money grabbing s***bag.  He is not bothered by vehicle pollution at all.  It is NOT illegal to drive a polluting vehicle in London, as long as you are willing to pay the daily charge then you can pollute as much as you like.  I think I'm right in saying that in some cities, like Edinburgh possibly, it is a criminal offence for which you can be fined, not just given a PCN. London never stops looking for ways to extract money from people. Who knows, if he collects enough he might be able to afford a necktie and even look like a Mayor.

You hit the nail on the head there Micky👍. The mayor jumps on anyone driving a so-called polluting vehicle but does nothing to stop the illegal use of scooters to deliver a cup of coffee a packet of fags or a Macdonald's to those who are too lazy to get it themselves by riders with no licence or insurance. When he introduced the expansion of ULEZ to outer London he said the money raised would go to increase public transport. He was 100% true to his word, in Croydon he put one extra bus on the timetable on one route in the early morning!

[Athame57]

You hit the nail on the head there Micky👍. The mayor jumps on anyone driving a so-called polluting vehicle but does nothing to stop the illegal use of scooters to deliver a cup of coffee a packet of fags or a Macdonald's to those who are too lazy to get it themselves by riders with no licence or insurance. When he introduced the expansion of ULEZ to outer London he said the money raised would go to increase public transport. He was 100% true to his word, in Croydon he put one extra bus on the timetable on one route in the early morning!

One really big issue is the destruction of road space for cycle highways . They jam up traffic causing pollution that way but are often completely underused. Cycling itself is becoming anarchy in London and I'm sure elsewhere too. The law seems to be optional, they never get subject to any policing it seems. I've had a string of close calls with them, even in the pedestrianised Watney market let alone on the road, maybe he doesn't want the police to 'persecute' them, that wouldn't encourage active travel would it?

[Bryanj]

I think i need a first generation land rover diesel with a worn out engine and badly adjusted fuel pump so i can drive round and round his house