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Offline ColinHH

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No Power to Ignition
« on: September 16, 2024, 12:37:00 PM »
Either a very strange coincidence, but I put my battery on charge overnight with the battery in Situ. This morning battery is fully charged and bike started. However, on the 2nd attempt at starting I am getting lights and horn but no Ignition power, no oil light or neutral indicator coming on. Fuses are all good, connections to ignition switch are good so am at a loss as to what has happened. Any suggestions?
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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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Re: No Power to Ignition
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2024, 01:15:21 PM »
I would start by just rotating the fuses in the holder to see if that changes anything making sure the fuse holder blades are making contact, then see if wiggling the key around in the ignition switch at an acute angle brings on the power to the ignition circuit even momentarily.

My next move would be to look at the wiring diagram and start checking the ignition power out of the switch unit itself with a voltmeter. The switches on many bikes can be the culprit - if the power out is good then check further down the line.



 
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Re: No Power to Ignition
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2024, 01:31:40 PM »
Ted's route to looking at ignition switch is good, and likely to at least see where the missing volts all leak out  :)

The ignition rotary switches on these as prime suspect can have that trait, just stopping with no prior warning.

The contacts on the wires going into the ignition key mech are on a plate that pushes up inside rear of barrel construction, then to locate with little "tangs" that hold the plate from coming back out.

The contact is made by the key rotation of another internal plate with little copper bridges to connect the wire terminals in correct sequence to power the circuits.

If the bridges or contact corrode,  then power is not transmitted to where it should go. There's little steel coil springs pushing the bridges into competent contact too, if these rust then there's no pressure to hold them in secure contact.

If the volts go in there and don't come out again, spray some de moisturiser (wd40 or similar)in the back and rotate the key a few times. It may help it pickup the action without dismantling being required.

Offline ColinHH

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Re: No Power to Ignition
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2024, 01:40:38 PM »
Sorry FALSE ALARM! I had the ignition switch off, tested the solenoid and then had a sit down and think. Which is always a good idea. Then it hit me. The bike was on centre stand and I was rotating the rear wheel to confirm it was in neutral BUT it was in false neutral i.e. between 2nd and 3rd. It’s not always as complicated as you think   :)

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Re: No Power to Ignition
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2024, 01:47:23 PM »
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Re: No Power to Ignition
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2024, 01:52:28 PM »
A consideration,  worthwhile spaying in there ( back on ignition switch after pulling back the covering) as it'll avoid moisture ingress along with unintended failure.

Not listed, I think, in maintenance scheme ,but often they are affected if used in weather  :)

 

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