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Offline Ken4004

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Question about tank decals
« on: November 06, 2024, 07:43:12 PM »
I have just seen the advert from one of the sponsors selling the tank decals, I take it that once they are applied a clear coat can be applied over the top of the decals.

I wouldn’t want to dissolve or damage the decals by applying the clear coat after spending £60 and also the hassle of stripping them off again an cleaning up the tank.

Have there been any past posts showing the positioning dimensions and correct way to apply them ?

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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2024, 07:45:44 PM »
Depends on what bike you are talking about!

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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2024, 07:50:50 PM »
Depends on what bike you are talking about!

He's got a 400/4 Bryan.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2024, 08:03:43 PM »
I have this, can't remember where it came from so can't guarantee it's accuracy. Hopefully someone on here can comment.

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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2024, 08:14:26 PM »
Yes, Redice, owned by our forum friend Diego, with his decals you lacquer over the top.
I'm nattering to Diego at the moment, he'll do you a great deal, I'll get him to PM you later.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2024, 08:57:45 PM »
More importantly Redice is also a sohc sponsor so he puts money back into this site. A shame the likes of DS do not.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2024, 09:46:07 PM »
More importantly Redice is also a sohc sponsor so he puts money back into this site. A shame the likes of DS do not.
I can't imagine David Silver giving his money away unnecessarily 😂😂😂😂
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2024, 10:07:57 PM »
I don't see sponsorship as  giving money away I see it as an investment in a company's own future with a sound eye on long term growth whilst rewarding the market place that it supplies.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2024, 10:15:05 PM »
I don't see sponsorship as  giving money away I see it as an investment in a company's own future with a sound eye on long term growth whilst rewarding the market place that it supplies.
David Silver is a forum member but he hasnt posted for over 10 years, that shows how interested he is in our little forum 😂😂😂😂
LINK TO MY EBAY PAGE. As many of you know already, I give discount and do post at cost to forum members if you PM me direct.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2024, 10:31:50 PM »
I have just seen the advert from one of the sponsors selling the tank decals, I take it that once they are applied a clear coat can be applied over the top of the decals.

I wouldn’t want to dissolve or damage the decals by applying the clear coat after spending £60 and also the hassle of stripping them off again an cleaning up the tank.

Have there been any past posts showing the positioning dimensions and correct way to apply them ?

Hello, I could help you with  your decals, what you need exactly??

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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2024, 12:32:46 AM »
I don't see sponsorship as  giving money away I see it as an investment in a company's own future with a sound eye on long term growth whilst rewarding the market place that it supplies.
David Silver is a forum member but he hasnt posted for over 10 years, that shows how interested he is in our little forum 😂😂😂😂

To be fair Julie it was me who  got him to join and I was pretty pleased about it at the time. But he got a load of abuse about his postage prices, so he  voted with his feet. P*ssed me off a bit at the time that.

Piki's decals are great .... I used some only today on my CB250RSA project. He does a good deal for members here too.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2024, 03:58:46 AM »
There is no reason to put clear over your decals on your 400 four. The factory did not do it and most of them look great 50 years later.
Pic of mine I refinished earlier this year.
When striping the original tank and side covers the decals came off intact with a heat gun.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2024, 07:51:41 AM »
There is no reason to put clear over your decals on your 400 four. The factory did not do it and most of them look great 50 years later.
Pic of mine I refinished earlier this year.
When striping the original tank and side covers the decals came off intact with a heat gun.

I had this debate before but my Varnish Blue tank is original and never repainted and the decals are cleared over. That's possibly why they are not listed as a separate part in all of the Parts Books I have ever seen. Different story with the side panel decals which were not cleared over and were listed in the parts book.

In the 1980's I did buy some genuine tank decals with Honda ---377---- part numbers from Fowlers of Bristol but lost the part number as it was written in back of my diary for 1986, which is long gone. Honda must have introduced them as painters would need them to fix damaged tanks.

Personally, with modern fuel I would always clear over decals with fuel resistant 2K clear. I painted another CB400F tank  earlier this year and used Piki's decals and they were spot on.
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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2024, 08:58:22 AM »
Hi Piki and everyone for their advice, I am looking for the tank and side panel decals for a Honda cb 400 four in Parakeet Yellow see photo attached.
The bike I am restoring was originally Antares Red but I decided to change it to the yellow during the rebuilt.
The paint finish was done by a friend at work on the company spray shop and the finish had a slight orange peel but my friend said I could flatten it by using a 3000 grit paper and then polish so that’s what I am going to do.
I wanted to add the lacquer for added protection but if the group think this is not necessary then I won’t bother.

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Re: Question about tank decals
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2024, 09:21:01 AM »
I can't see why anyone wouldn't clear coat over the tank decals. If, over time, they started lifting, a new set of decals would be needed, so it's a false economy not to apply lacquer in the first place.
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