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Offline neat street

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carb question for cb500
« on: Today at 09:02:41 AM »
Hi all, the set of carbs have a choke leaver that is sprung loaded, so cannot be set at any intermediate setting (either on or off), question 1) can I change any parts from a spare set of cb750F1 carbs to make them more flexible? also when looking at them the choke is closed and is opened by the leaver? this I am sure is wrong? I have tried to look at the carb drawings on CMSIL, but cannot find a set the same as mine, or at least a full drawing with choke assembly showing spring orientation, are the srings on the carbs in the wrong way somehow?
thank you all for your help, John
CB500 1975
CB750F 1976
KLX250 1983
Lambretta SX200 1979
Mini Mayfair 1984

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #1 on: Today at 09:47:21 AM »
I wonder if your carbs aren't standard because my chokes are operated by a small lever on the left side and it can be sited in any position from fully open to fully closed with no spring at all.

I will say though that fine adjustment has never been needed.  I start on full choke; within a few seconds I hear the engine revs start to decrease.  At this point, I open the chokes fully and engine runs normally.  This seems to be the case whatever the weather or temperature.  Once the engine is warm, no choke is required for subsequent restarts.

Maybe post a picture?
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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #2 on: Today at 10:58:32 AM »
[...] I start on full choke; within a few seconds I hear the engine revs start to decrease.  At this point, I open the chokes fully and engine runs normally.  This seems to be the case whatever the weather or temperature.  Once the engine is warm, no choke is required for subsequent restarts.
This ^ is the right procedure, also practised by me. The choke on this model is not supposed to be applied when riding.

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #3 on: Today at 11:28:09 AM »
I have a USA 1975 K1 marked 022A on the right side carb inlet flange which are correct for the bike.  As with Florence my choke leaver is on the left and can be set in any position with down being full open. 
The springs that are on the choke system, 1 on each carb are arranged so they will help hold the choke closed but they cannot overcome the friction within the system,  so as I see it are just helpers and the leaver stays where you put it. Maybe all the bushes that the rods run through are very worn or missing on yours resulting in a lack of friction.

I would imagine the choke size (inlet diameter through the carb not actual choke) would be bigger on the 750 carbs and all jetting will be wrong for 550.

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #4 on: Today at 11:46:50 AM »
Thank you again for your help, please see some pics of the carbs, note the springs which I would guess are put in wrong? As hopefully you can see the springs (x3) are keeping the choke closed. thanks again for your help.
CB500 1975
CB750F 1976
KLX250 1983
Lambretta SX200 1979
Mini Mayfair 1984

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #5 on: Today at 11:51:24 AM »
I see You say the choke on your carbs would naturally move to closed, that is what the correct orientation of the springs will do. So as said I think you have some wear in the system. I have posted a photo of the springs on my carbs and bushing where the rods go through the carbs, which should help.

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #6 on: Today at 11:57:03 AM »
Thanks Murf, looks like the springs are in right, so will now look at other parts for wear? seems to be aalot of pressure on the choke spring to keep them closed, thanks again all for your help.
CB500 1975
CB750F 1976
KLX250 1983
Lambretta SX200 1979
Mini Mayfair 1984

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #7 on: Today at 12:11:30 PM »
I think the answer is that there is a little plate on carb 1 that has a hole in it that a spring loaded ball bearing can click into and this holds the choke in the open position.

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:13:37 PM »
Better photo of it

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Re: carb question for cb500
« Reply #9 on: Today at 05:39:43 PM »
Thanks again Murf, thats definatly ssolved the problem :-)
CB500 1975
CB750F 1976
KLX250 1983
Lambretta SX200 1979
Mini Mayfair 1984

 

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