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deltarider:
What exactly are foresaid heels made of. Trespa?
deltarider:
--- Quote from: Oddjob on August 05, 2026, 01:07:59 PM ---[...] Most people don’t own a dwell meter anyway. Really wish you’d stop recommending stuff, you have absolutely no practical experience to base it on after never being in the trade and tbh most of it is wrong anyway.
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I've been working with dwell- and multimeters since mid 80s, so I have ample experience. The ANWB (the Dutch AA (with the best mechanics in the Netherlands)) had published a test of equipment in the market. Back then all these meters were analogue. In general they were not very good in measuring amps and resistances. They were all good if not excellent in reading volts, tach and dwell. I've never said anyone should have a dwell meter. All I've said in the international forum: if you need to buy a multimeter then make it an automotive one. The extra cost is neglectable.
Based on my experience I prefer analogue meters for reading volts (engine running!), dwell and tach. Reading a dial is intuitive and sooo much easier than hectic changing digits that your brain needs to interpret.
For volts (engine off!), resistances and amps I prefer digital.
My old analogue meter came out best of the test. Swiss made, it was extremely accurate and the big scale shows even the smallest increments. A joy to use.
Anyone is free to test it out for themselves, Oddjob.
Oddjob:
There you go again. How do you know the Dutch have the best mechanics, statistically that's pretty much impossible to say, the world out numbers them by a HUGE amount. Ever see a Honda Japanese mechanic work? Jesus it's an education in itself. They do most of it by fingertips, they don't seem to get dirty either, pristine overalls at the end of the day. I've worked with great mechanics and poor mechanics, one was so good Yamaha UK used to ring him up for advice. I also have an analogue dwell meter, I tested it against the official Honda machine, bloody great big wheel around machine with an oscilloscope. It tested out to within 1 degree, close enough I thought but it was adjustable so I altered it anyway. These are no longer available and finding a working one is rare. Most members on here have no idea what dwell angles are and even less on how to set it, even if they had the equipment. Is dwell setting better than gapping points, yes far better IMO, it ignores face damage for instance to a certain degree. Plus you set it whilst running the engine, far better. No idea why you mention volts and amps on a points thread but it doesn't surprise me, if in doubt prevaricate.
deltarider:
Best mechanics in the Netherlands. I've corrected.
The addition about volts, amps and resistances was just an extra. Just to inform folks not to expect just anything to be better when it is analogue cq digital. It's just some extra information based on years long experience that I like to share. Anything against communicating experience, Oddjob?
exvalvesetdabbler:
--- Quote from: Oddjob on August 05, 2026, 02:37:58 PM ---It's not. The points heel is far softer and would wear away to nothing before it affected the lobe. Someone is running an experiment to see if fitted just the TEC 1-4 points would help the aftermarket 2-3 to time up correctly. No answer yet. I think the heel on TEC points are longer than aftermarket ones which allows for greater adjustment. It's a theory.
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The trick used to be enlarging the oval slot on the points base plate allow more adjustment
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