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z1100r:

 Steve..I paid alot of money for this stuff believing it to be genuine Honda. If it was genuine Honda then it was out of their scrap bin. I probably got a set someone had allready returned once before, its my fault I suppose, for just storing them until needed without checking them. I'm seriously peed off about it though and haven't got time to go getting it replated.

 The fact that I have to tweak them at all is bad, if these arrived on the production line at build time they would just have been chucked in the bin. So I'm having to put up with inferior crap from the start but paying top dollar for it.

 Those rubber connecting pipes at the back force you to hold quite tight tolerances with the bending and welding of the pipe. A small amount out at the front is huge at the back. Mine is as far out as:-  1) The gap between the pipe stubs is longer than the rubber hose when the pipes are bolted to the hanger. 2) the inside pipe is too short, the outside pipe is too long.
3) the interconnecting pipe stubs are half and half over each other..no chance of fitting the hose - even when I get them closer together.

 If I'd just bought them I'd send them back and stick with my 4-1. I'm Annoyed at the moment.

Bryanj:
They are Honda But over time the jigs wear and/or it was one that got through, DS would have replaced it immediately if you had found it at the time.

Incidentaly that was why 350 four pipes were unavailable for a long time, The jig for one pipe got damaged and Honda saw no reason to repair/replace it for a limited run of spares

z1100r:

 The trouble is Bryan I have to get these to fit properly and I mean properly with little to no strain on them. If I was just gonna stick the bike in a heated garage and use it once a year then it would be OK now...but I use my bikes alot. What happens if its under any kind of pre stress is that the silencer cracks all over the place. I've seen it a few times before on other bikes. Theres no rubber mounting on these systems as you know, and even though the engines are smooth, everything has a some sort of vibration.
  You load some stress on by forcing the bolts in and doing them up and then you gently vibrate it. A recipe for premature failure. I'm fairly confident I can sort it tonight, but I'm supposed to be getting on with my tank, not farting about with genuine parts that dont fit.

z1100r:
The pipes have taken over my life but at least i now have the worse side fitted as nice as they are going to get. A couple of hours with lumps of wood and serious alterations to rear brackets has done the trick. I also managed to get the black panels painted on the tank in between cursing about the pipes. All of the pipes are wrong not just no3..No's 1 and 4 are pretty bad too. 2 is about OK.

 I will not buy any more of those pipes...!!! as soon as the bikes all done and comes back from IOM the 4-1 is going back on and these things can live in the loft. The silencers seem to be made of paper..!

Masking has marked tank but i'll flat with 1200 anyway which will clean that up, then put the white stripes on and laquer the dammed thing..I've had enough. If its shit I'll blast it all off when I get back and do it with proper stuff.

z1100r:

 Done...!!! Looks bloody fantastic if I say it myself. Stripes are single lining tape, badges are new. Now to see how tough it is...??

 

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