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CB500/550 / Re: Carb return spring on '77 CB550F
« on: September 11, 2025, 03:36:27 PM »
Did you re-synchronize the carbs with the idle adjustment screw turned in a lot? This will affect the carbs returning to the stop screw when the spring return doesn't have enough snap to go into the over ride.

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CB500/550 / Re: Lead Replacement Additives for Fuel
« on: September 07, 2025, 11:30:03 AM »
Totally agree with you.

Our government here in Canada has made it almost impossible to acquire gasoline without ethanol. Even Shell V-Power now has up to 5% ethanol. Some marinas as well as some airport fuel suppliers offer ethanol free petrol which I have yet to source.

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CB500/550 / Re: Lead Replacement Additives for Fuel
« on: September 06, 2025, 03:14:02 PM »
Julie,

It's not me it's our new best friend, Google AI. Haha

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CB500/550 / Re: Lead Replacement Additives for Fuel
« on: September 06, 2025, 02:52:27 PM »
According to our new Google AI friend,

AI Overview,
Yes, the 1972 Honda CB500 Four was designed to run on unleaded fuel, as Honda's engines from the late 1960s onward, including the CB500, featured hardened valve seats that did not require the cushioning effect of leaded fuel. This design foresight allowed them to transition to unleaded gasoline, which was becoming the standard at the time.

Why the CB500 Four was designed for unleaded fuel:
Hardened Valve Seats:
The engines of the time, including the CB500 Four, were built with aluminum cylinder heads and steel valve seats, which eliminated the need for the lead additive for engine protection.
Honda's Foresight:
Honda anticipated the widespread availability of unleaded fuel and designed their engines accordingly, effectively future-proofing their models.

Honda's Foresight:
Honda anticipated the widespread availability of unleaded fuel and designed their engines accordingly, effectively future-proofing their models.
No Need for Octane Boost:
The lead in older fuels was not only for valve lubrication but also for octane rating. However, the CB500 Four had a compression ratio that was well-suited for regular, unleaded gasoline.
Key takeaway: You can safely run your 1972 CB500 Four on regular, unleaded gasoline without needing special additives or concerns about the engine.

Ethanol concerns: The bigger issue for vintage bikes today is the ethanol content in modern fuel, which can cause problems for older fuel system components.
Ethanol can degrade rubber and plastic components found in older motorcycles, like fuel lines and carburetor seals.

It can also attract and absorb water, which leads to rust in the gas tank and corrosion in the fuel system.
If the bike sits for a while, ethanol can separate from the gasoline and cause gummy deposits that clog the carburetors.

Best practices: Many classic motorcycle owners prefer to use ethanol-free fuel whenever possible. If ethanol-free gas isn't available, using a fuel stabilizer is recommended, especially for long-term storage.
How about I help you find some ethanol-free gas stations in your area, or put together a list of recommended fuel additives for vintage motorcycles?

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CB500/550 / Lead Replacement Additives for Fuel
« on: September 05, 2025, 05:20:58 PM »
I saw a post from way back in 2010 about the need for lead replacement additives in fuel and was wondering if there was any change in opinion that it wasn't necessary. Anybody know if the CB500 1972 K1 engine has hardened valve seats?

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Announcements / Re: Ken Oddjob not well.
« on: July 16, 2025, 06:34:49 PM »
Get well wishes from Canada!

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He seems to have lots of stuff in good and bad looking condition.
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CB500/550 / Re: Clutch slip
« on: May 30, 2025, 04:59:16 PM »
Stock clutches were notoriously poor and slipped soon after. I have Barnett clutches in both my CB500's and heavy duty springs. Yet with the added horsepower from Yoshimura big bore kits and performance cams, I preload the springs with 2mm thick washers drilled out to match the inner spring diameter. 1/4" washers are just about match the OD of the springs.

The Barnett clutches work great but the plates stick together over night. You have to kick the engine over with the clutch pulled in several times to free up the clutch before riding off. It's a real pain when it's a hot day.

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CB500/550 / Re: Oil leak from points cover.CB550.
« on: May 30, 2025, 04:51:36 PM »
The seal can be done without splitting the cases. Just have to lube it up with grease and with a proper drift, knock it in. The chamfer on the case allows it to go in without too much trouble and without ripping the lip off.

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CB500/550 / Re: Oil leak from points cover.CB550.
« on: April 15, 2025, 07:07:28 PM »
The seal can be done without splitting the cases even though it is lipped. Lube it up and drive it in with a proper sized socket.

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CB500/550 / Re: CB550 Lost Ignition - Help Needed
« on: January 15, 2025, 01:48:38 PM »
Open up the handle bar switch by undoing the 2 screws. From the inside you can access the contacts. Probably have to loosen up the cable lock nuts as one interferes with the screw removal.

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CB500/550 / Re: CB 500 Four Gast Tank Painting
« on: October 09, 2024, 07:56:57 PM »
Lots of black particles may be rubber from alcohol in the petrol. Dumbest government mandate.

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CB500/550 / Re: Paint disaster / new colour
« on: June 06, 2024, 06:29:10 PM »
All fast drying spray cans are lacquer based. They have a high amount of lacquer thinner in them. In order to do multiple coats and multiple colors, they need to be sprayed within an hour or so or you'll get the dreaded wrinkling effect. These paints are not gasoline resistant. The high lacquer content is used to slightly dissolve the 1st coat for 2nd coat adherence. If you wait too long, like a day, you will get the wrinkle effect.

There are enamel paints which are oil based and can take up to a day or 2 to dry enough for a second coat or second color. They are more gasoline resistant but color choices are limited. These paints do not wrinkle because they don't have the same solvents in them.

The best paints would be automotive paint and a HVLP paint sprayer setup. Unfortunately, most people don't have this. I used to paint with lacquers and then finalize my paint with several coats of clear lacquer to resist gasoline spills. It worked to a certain degree if you wiped it off immediately. But now that I've gotten used to spraying automotive paints, urethane based, it's really the best and most durable way.

What you could do is paint either lacquer or enamel with spray cans, and organize with an automotive paint shop to finalize your paint job with a urethane clear coat. It won't react with either. You may have to lightly wet sand your paint job with 600 grit just to give something for the urethane clear coat to adhere to.

I am not a paint guru but I have lacquer painted a lot of motorcycles in the past like 40 years ago and just restarted painting motorcycles after teaching myself how to paint cars.

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CB500/550 / Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« on: May 14, 2024, 06:41:02 PM »
I always used a light film of GE Silicone (pure Silcone caulk, not the paintable goop) on the head gasket and the O-rings for the oil passage. It was a poor design relying on the O-ring alone between the head and the cylinders. Why they didn't have a similar setup for the cylinder to crank case with the oil jet is a mystery. However I've got Yoshimura big bore kits with higher compression pistons in both my CB500's and they never leak at the cylinders or the oil passage. You have about a half hour before it starts to set too much so make sure you get the head on and torqued within that period. The silicone also makes for an easier cleanup the next time you change the gasket. Paint thinner or mineral spirits seems to slowly eat the film left behind.

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