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Title: new side panel painted
Post by: ace cafe racer on September 27, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
finally got to the end of painting the new side panel, just a bit of compounding to do. finally got the new V5c now registered as Historic vehicle. Cant decide whether the number plate I made looks OK or not, it is to spec.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 27, 2019, 06:25:24 PM
The plate and the side panel look great Mick 👍👍👍
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Spitfire on September 27, 2019, 06:42:49 PM
They both look great, nice job

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: mickwinf on September 28, 2019, 04:07:39 PM
very nice but is a black plate legal, thought after 73 should be yellow
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 28, 2019, 04:14:29 PM
very nice but is a black plate legal, thought after 73 should be yellow
As long as its registered as Historic Mick, it can have black / white. It also rolls over yearly along with the Historic entitlement. So now, my 78 reg bike can have black / white as registered as historic...but i haven't bothered, I'm still wearing yellow, I think a T reg bike with black / white plates just looks stooopid.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 28, 2019, 04:16:15 PM
Per Julie, I understand it’s now a rolling date.

Also, nobody seems to give a monkeys nowadays anyway…


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Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 28, 2019, 04:17:35 PM
Per Julie, I understand it’s now a rolling date.

Also, nobody seems to give a monkeys nowadays anyway…


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Agree Steve. I see plenty of brand new bikes with black / white plates fitted.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Did I read on a previous post that after a certain date, the plate numbers had to be in a set format/plate size over 2 lines - sure it was on a DVLA link someone posted - I'd prefer to be wrong on this as the plate format over 3 lines on this post would suit my CR and the K6 cafe racer in on with now

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Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 09:44:52 AM
Did I read on a previous post that after a certain date, the plate numbers had to be in a set format/plate size over 2 lines - sure it was on a DVLA link someone posted - I'd prefer to be wrong on this as the plate format over 3 lines on this post would suit my CR and the K6 cafe racer in on with now

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You can have 3 lines Phil
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Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: ace cafe racer on September 29, 2019, 10:11:48 AM
And the font to use is called Charles Wright if making your own
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 11:53:37 AM
Did I read on a previous post that after a certain date, the plate numbers had to be in a set format/plate size over 2 lines - sure it was on a DVLA link someone posted - I'd prefer to be wrong on this as the plate format over 3 lines on this post would suit my CR and the K6 cafe racer in on with now
Does the last line on the guidance not mean you can't have 3 lines after 1st January 1973 - 'must be set on two lines'?
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You can have 3 lines Phil
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Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 12:09:12 PM
Not sure I posted correctly last post so
- Does the last line on the guidance not mean you can't have 3 lines after 1st January 1973 - 'must be set on two lines'?
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 12:10:54 PM
Just re-read first part - so get it now - senior moment!
So is there a kit to make the 3 line plate?
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 12:18:32 PM
It's typical DVLA confusion Phil. It says 'Vehicles' in the first part of that page and then down the bottom says motorcycles and tricycles 🤔🤔🤔 I'm going by the first bit which relates to the 73/78 bit, implying that as ling as its registered Historic, its OK. The last bit about bikes etc, is not saying the same as what's at the top of the paragraph. Once again though, I see new bikes with black and white, on 3 lines.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: ace cafe racer on September 29, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
Just re-read first part - so get it now - senior moment!
So is there a kit to make the 3 line plate?
I just got some suitable metal painted it black cut the numbers in white vinyl on my vinyl plotter, stuck them on and clear varnished over. I would gladly cut the nos for you if you wish.in return for all the help given on this forum.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 12:36:10 PM
Thanks for that offer - will get in touch when I'm at that stage - much appreciated
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: ace cafe racer on September 29, 2019, 12:56:23 PM
Just for information The Rules Governing Motorcycle Plates
To begin with, all single row motorcycle plates are illegal.  The government makes this very clear by pronouncing that, “Characters on Number plates must be set out over two lines and must be displayed on all motorcycles registered on or after 1 January 1973.”Bikes that were registered before the 1st of September 2001, can display a three-row number plate. But this doesn’t suit most bikes and therefore is not a popular option for most bile owners.

All other bikes have to follow a very strict 2-row rule for motorcycle plates. It is also mandatory for this plates to be displayed on the rear if the bike. If your bike was registered before 1st September 2001, you may also be able to place a number plate on the front as well. These rules apply to tri-cycles as well.

This particular date of 1st September, 2001 is important because it also marks the date that small changes to the rules governing motorcycle plates were also announced. These small changes affect the character sizes and the overall size of the plate. They basically tell you how big or how small your number plate can be
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 01:09:44 PM
But, you can still have a single line front number plate fitted of the kidney splitter type, if you wish.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: philward on September 29, 2019, 01:11:45 PM
Is that some sort of medical talk Julie!
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 01:14:46 PM
Is that some sort of medical talk Julie!
🤣🤣🤣Could be Phil. Those metal number plates on the front mudguards did split kidneys and other parts of the anatomy....hence why they made them optional and not mandatory.
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Bryanj on September 29, 2019, 05:11:59 PM
But at the same time they made them optional on tractors as well, or was that because the average farmer dont give a stuff anyway?
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Moorey on September 29, 2019, 08:44:32 PM
finally got to the end of painting the new side panel, just a bit of compounding to do. finally got the new V5c now registered as Historic vehicle. Cant decide whether the number plate I made looks OK or not, it is to spec.

If I were some pedantic cop I would say its not to spec. No 11mm border on the bottom for one thing.  That could be £1000 please. ;)
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 10:30:59 PM
Current Motorcycle MOT testers Manual. I think it depends if you are going by the C&U regs or the MOT regs.....I always go by MOT regs as no one, including Mr Plod understands or knows the C&U regs

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Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 10:33:17 PM
The relevant part of the MOT regs.....for anyone that may be interested

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/0-identification-of-the-vehicle
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: ace cafe racer on September 29, 2019, 10:42:09 PM
And
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedule/3/made 

complicated or what?
Title: Re: new side panel painted
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 29, 2019, 11:23:10 PM
And
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedule/3/made 

complicated or what?
Yes, very complicated. Around Lincolnshire, the police really don't care what format / colour plate you display, or if it's on the side.....except if it's too small. Any biker with a plate the size of a fag packet gets pulled and fined. Other than that, Mr Plod really isn't interested and I think it's all about the size due to being read by ANPR. The format is of no interest as long as it can be read. There are so many current regs from different government depts relating to bikes of all ages and they all contradict each other. So, going by the current regs......if a bike is registered as Historic it can have a black / white plate and if the bike is 1st used prior to  September 2001, the reg number can be over 3 lines.