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Title: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 06, 2020, 09:25:13 PM
The bulbs in the Pilot Light Unit are not like ordinary car bulbs - is there a type designation so I can get replacements or even better is there an LED unit that fits & is suitable?

Any links much appreciated please.
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: TrickyMicky on November 06, 2020, 10:45:45 PM
They are 233 bulbs.  You can get led replacements, but make sure you get coloured bulbs, white led's behind coloured lenses give out a distorted coloured light. Hve a look at the website classiccarleds.
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 06, 2020, 11:05:00 PM
They are 233 bulbs.  You can get led replacements, but make sure you get coloured bulbs, white led's behind coloured lenses give out a distorted coloured light. Hve a look at the website classiccarleds.

Thanks Mick that's just what I was after.

Ted
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: robvangulik on November 07, 2020, 12:54:30 AM
In my opinion it has no real use to replace those lamps with LED's to lighten the electrical load, none of them light for any length of time!
When your oil lamp lights for any length of time while riding you clearly have other problems than the state of the battery or alternator, neutral lights only while stopped, signal lights are only used occasionally, and only light 50% of the time, and the high beam  won't be used for long until one of the other road users complains about getting a headache from your eye splitting headlamp ;) ;)
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 07, 2020, 03:11:10 AM
In my opinion it has no real use to replace those lamps with LED's to lighten the electrical load, none of them light for any length of time!
When your oil lamp lights for any length of time while riding you clearly have other problems than the state of the battery or alternator, neutral lights only while stopped, signal lights are only used occasionally, and only light 50% of the time, and the high beam  won't be used for long until one of the other road users complains about getting a headache from your eye splitting headlamp ;) ;)

You raise some good points I might stick with Tungsten. My Jeep has 7  interior lamps that illuminate when you open a door if the engine is not running they stay on for almost 5 minutes I've put LED bulbs to cut down the load.
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: cliff7 on November 07, 2020, 09:59:26 AM
My book says 3.4w bulbs for warning lights and speedo illumination. I was a bit nervous of putting 233 (4w) bulbs in, in case it melted something so I put in 643 (2.2w)  which are a bit dim. Are 233,s ok for speedo and tacho as well as they are a lot easier to get?
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: TrickyMicky on November 07, 2020, 12:12:52 PM
I replaced my speedo/tacho bulbs with green 233 LED's, no heat problem, less current, and really illuminate the green clocks superbly. If you look on one of my previous posts re. headlamp bulbs, you can see the illuminated clocks.
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: SeanFD on November 10, 2020, 04:25:53 PM
I found 3.4v bulbs here.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400)

Came quickly but haven’t tested them yet.
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: Bryanj on November 10, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
You may find the glass "bulb" is too tall and melts the plastic, Honda used short, round topped type
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: paul G on November 11, 2020, 12:26:32 PM
I found 3.4v bulbs here.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400)

Came quickly but haven’t tested them yet.

3.4V :o ;D ;D W
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: SeanFD on November 11, 2020, 03:16:51 PM
Oops!
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: paul G on November 12, 2020, 07:49:50 AM
Oops!
;D ;D I bet those 3.4v bulbs were very very bright for about a nano second  ;) ;D
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: Trigger on November 12, 2020, 08:14:12 AM
I found 3.4v bulbs here.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402522464400?ViewItem=&item=402522464400)

Came quickly but haven’t tested them yet.


You may find that the glass is too big a dia to fit. Let us know  ;)
Title: Re: What is the bulb type for the 400/4 pilot lights i.e. oil pressure, high beam et
Post by: SeanFD on November 12, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
Good news on both fronts.

The bulbs stayed lit, for 30s at least  :D and they fitted into the speedo on my 450; so I guess they’ll fit into others as well.