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Title: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 23, 2022, 05:56:04 PM
Hi all , trying to get my bike to run properly!! , however the idle is hanging slightly and I constantly  have to adjust the idle screw when I restart the bike .also my air box has fuel in it . I have checked the plugs and they are very black but not oily just sooty , also the main jets in there are 100 ,should they be 98 and would these cause too much fuel , its got a kerker exhaust on it so  not sure why the previous owner has put 100s in . Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 23, 2022, 06:01:14 PM
Can you see the carb number Dave, is it 069A or 627B?
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 23, 2022, 06:07:26 PM
They are 069a ones .
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 23, 2022, 06:16:50 PM
They should be 98 main and 38 slow. I suspect the PO also altered the clip position which would account for the black plugs.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 23, 2022, 06:19:27 PM
Thanks Ken , what about the fuel in my air box there must have been a couple of  eggcups full in there .
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 23, 2022, 06:28:30 PM
Most likely float stuck and flooding backwards. Check the pipes coming out of the float bowls aren't blocked/trapped. I'd also check the float bowl drain pipes, the brass ones, if those block the fuel has to go somewhere and it's either into the engine or the airbox. There should be a drain on the airbox as well to stop that getting a big problem.

Is the airfilter housing vented to air, in that the engine breather no longer goes to the airbox as it does as standard?
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 23, 2022, 06:40:40 PM
The engine breather ( big fat tube) at top of engine went to the bottom left of the airbox
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 23, 2022, 07:22:31 PM
Disconnect it Dave and just vent it to air near the main stand. If for any reason the engine starts to vomit out it's oil, and I've had this when a set of rings broke and the compression went past the piston and put the crankcase under compression, it won't flood the airbox.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 23, 2022, 07:48:56 PM
Will do , I see DS sells the 98 jets by special order so I will get some & strip the carbs and look at needle position as well , then swear like **** as I try to refit them  ;D
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 26, 2022, 08:42:55 PM
Has anyone got ant original 98 jets for sale as DS and CMSL have none .
Cheers
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Sesman on September 27, 2022, 08:25:34 AM
Try NRP carbs Manchester
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 12:49:49 PM
I may have 3.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 08:45:46 PM
NRP only have larger sizes but good to know , before I take you up on your offer Oddjob can I compensate the  jet size by moving the needle up or down a notch
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 08:51:03 PM
My BIL ran his bike with 3 x 069a carbs with 98s in and 1 x 627B with a 100 in and never noticed the difference.

I swapped him a set of 627Bs for his and that's where these are from. I'll end up breaking them.

I doubt raising the needle would compensate, most likely it would make it worse.

It's possible someone may have just one spare.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 08:58:58 PM
Just found this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153871871873?epid=1015943832&hash=item23d37a6f81:g:4qsAAOSwIM5edQBh&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoMtvhOiJGt%2BcCfI%2B9Q%2BOO3VtvDaHbhliAnLxqkzNo3zWiwoNMxU9SisvzNGde8mTOL3q7JmNaIc809bjp5o5uGz0THWij6PHbWc9nzQHZyXDYP%2BrvLR0X95%2BZqyTA4dVB3F60an%2BxwQcSM3i5NwTpW2PQsku2Pt9A%2FQypiJO%2BtCRwxAgTFPQBXp%2FKovbUHC5xli9wsgKomDMkuUJOcKkpac%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4jCtojwYA
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 09:03:03 PM
Pm me what you want for them Ken
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 09:04:44 PM
Also here Dave.

https://www.mcw-onderdelen.nl/nl_NL/p/Sproeier-98-%2C-cb550f-cb350k4%09%09oem%09%0999202-6010980/8947
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 09:05:47 PM
I will have your 3 and get one of these
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 09:08:43 PM
How about you get both and I'll give you 2 of mine, that way I still have one for anyone else in the future.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 09:12:39 PM
I need to ask how much from Netherlands first  :)
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 09:13:54 PM
Get the 2 that are on Ebay in the UK Dave.

Don't forget to change the orings for Viton ones as well.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 09:15:14 PM
If you fancy 4 new ones, then Pietparts has 4 in stock as well.

Dealt with Peter before and he's good.

http://pietparts.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Honda-website-partnr-09-04-21.pdf
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 09:21:20 PM
DOH , I never read it properly I only  thought they had 1 , in that case I will take your 2 please Ken
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on September 27, 2022, 09:24:04 PM
Have I got your address Dave?

If not PM it and I'll pop them in the post.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on September 27, 2022, 09:28:48 PM
Thanks Ken sending my address
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on October 02, 2022, 01:20:13 PM
Just checked the size of my fuel pipe whilst waiting for jets to arrive & the outside diameter is 10mm and internal is about 8 , just read on another thread it should be 5.5 , would this cause overfuelling and sooty plugs . Regards Dave
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on October 02, 2022, 01:27:59 PM
No, floats control the amount of fuel in the carbs, it would however mean sloppy joints which can allow fuel to escape. Not a good idea Dave, buy some new Nitrile piping whilst it's apart.
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on October 02, 2022, 01:51:33 PM
Many thanks  Ken , I'm determined to try and get them right before I put back on again !!
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Davelu88 on October 03, 2022, 03:36:45 PM
Jets arrived today , many thanks  Ken
Title: Re: 550F jets
Post by: Oddjob on October 03, 2022, 03:39:41 PM
No problem, happy to help out a fellow member.
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