Post by: Honda enthusiast on August 02, 2023, 10:15:54 AM
I've decided to start on my K7...it's an American import with some scabby engine paint and rusty frame along with a loud Delkevic four into one. The chrome is very good for its age too good to send away for redoing and the previous owner had done the paint which is well finished but slightly lighter and more purple than standard. I might just stick with it....in the next month I'm going to strip it down. I'll be posting pics as I go...
Kind regards
Shuggie
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on August 02, 2023, 10:36:04 AM
Here's two pics, the seat cover isn't fitted well either but has a good base no rust. I've just bought the oe exhaust from DS and a pair of shocks too.
Johnny4428 Hi 😉 Yes I love starting a new project, it's going to be nice...I'll start taking off bits tomorrow 👍
Shuggie
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 27, 2024, 06:16:46 PM
Laverda is away on Tuesday, I'll have some space now , woohoo
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 27, 2024, 06:42:02 PM
I've bought an original 1200TS to replace it, this one is all it seems and a keeper(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240127/2c16f727dca1732097a4361e6dc6fdaa.jpg)
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Post by: Laverda Dave on January 28, 2024, 01:31:10 PM
I bought it as a 30k km bike and then found out from one of the club member owners that had 130k Kms on it...I was conned but didn't con the buyer now, lost a shed load on it but the buyer is happy.
I've bought an original 1200TS to replace it, this one is all it seems and a keeper(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240127/2c16f727dca1732097a4361e6dc6fdaa.jpg)
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So you are still in the family 👍
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 05, 2024, 05:13:06 PM
Yesterday finally got my finger out and set up the plating kit and by three in the afternoon today had almost all the zinc plating done...just the engine jis screws and the stand springs and mounting bolts to do...I'm happy 😁 ahead of where I thought I'd be
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Post by: Johnny4428 on February 05, 2024, 05:57:05 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 05, 2024, 07:29:09 PM
Better weather tomorrow to do some fencing till Wednesday and then go through the parts, replate rejects and get the stands fixings and springs off the frame and the cover screws for zincing. Also to have a good look around to check there's none missed, very annoying to find some when the plating kit has been stored.
I've decided to do my own polishing so the covers are coming off to strip old lacquer off and polish and half decided but unsure whether to strip the engine to do the engine paint bake on with bare cases....its only got just under ten k on the clock so it might do more harm than good... ???
Post by: Spitfire on February 06, 2024, 03:39:37 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 06, 2024, 08:05:53 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 06, 2024, 08:31:47 PM
I've been sending zinc plating to Derby plating for years but the last job for my Honda Bros was £150 all in so with that and the nagging worry if Royal Mail lost the parcel made me do it myself...Ian ( Orcadian) gave me some encouragement and I haven't looked back.
I've had better results this time by careful washing off between acid, alkali cleaners and the plating baths.The surface prep with the wire wheel and gunk degreaser has also helped as well as the clear blue passivate being warm in a plastic bucket...I think it was reacting with the stainless container used previously 🤔👍
Post by: Jan B on February 06, 2024, 08:58:55 PM
I think i have to give it a go myself because my local plater doesn't take new orders soon. Too busy.
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 06, 2024, 09:22:57 PM
Quite impressive plating you've got going there!
I think i have to give it a go myself because my local plater doesn't take new orders soon. Too busy.
Look at the Gateros plating website, and Dan one of the owners is very helpful...with anything like this results improve as you work at it... pm me if you need any input
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 29, 2024, 09:48:34 PM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 01, 2024, 12:07:46 AM
I recently asked one of our resident gurus on here about CB750 primary chains and he advised me to stagger them... like this:-
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on March 01, 2024, 08:45:27 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 01, 2024, 09:11:16 AM
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 01, 2024, 11:22:48 AM
Thanks Ted, you're more observant than me , I can see that now 😎👍👍
Sorry should have clarified better :-[ . Ted is correct.
Post by: Honda enthusiast on March 01, 2024, 11:29:45 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 01, 2024, 11:58:33 AM
Thanks Ted, you're more observant than me , I can see that now 😎👍👍
I'm a wee beginner at observation HE- I'm trying to gravitate towards an apprentice version of a Grand Master Oddjob. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Honda enthusiast on June 23, 2024, 06:06:31 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on August 09, 2024, 09:42:59 PM
17 x ???
Thanks Hubert
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 09, 2024, 11:46:48 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on August 10, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Cheers Hubert
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 10, 2024, 06:59:44 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on August 10, 2024, 07:23:46 PM
Hubert
Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 16, 2025, 08:40:04 PM
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And I fitted the bronze swing arm bushes, drawing them in with a M10 threaded rod and two heavy washers....fitted the swing arm but it needs taking off again as I forgot to thread the endless chain through.
It's a 630 will it stress the output shaft , should I go for a 530 setup
Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 16, 2025, 08:42:59 PM
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 16, 2025, 09:34:54 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 16, 2025, 09:39:06 PM
An hour or two a day should see it progressing well
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 16, 2025, 09:58:28 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on January 16, 2025, 10:18:55 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Ted Johnny 🙂 👍
Post by: K2-K6 on January 17, 2025, 09:06:08 AM
I feel the 750 motor is the most neat aesthetically of this four cylinder series Honda made in that era. The inclined cylinder and generally smoother cases making a more complete design than the others.
Looks like being well on target for summer riding :)
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Post by: taysidedragon on February 20, 2025, 01:29:19 PM
I have had a good look but not turned up yet! It will have a side effect that I'll have tidied up by the time it surfaces!! I'm not normally like this , bit disconcerting 🤔 probably will be hiding in plain sight somewhere obvious
My trick to lose things is to move them into a strong cardboard or plastic box. Then I forget that I did that and look for the tatty box or plastic bag that they were in originally! 😟
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 20, 2025, 02:42:09 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 20, 2025, 04:42:40 PM
My extra safe place is the bottom of my wardrobe, the other very very safe place - I'm still tyring to find that.
Absolutely, found them 😄 in a Protech shock absorber box on the top shelf. I was sure it was empty or was that my brain 😉😁👍
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 20, 2025, 05:43:03 PM
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Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 27, 2025, 11:41:17 AM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 27, 2025, 04:54:06 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 27, 2025, 07:06:34 PM
Looks & sounds good in the video, you must be well pleased.👍👍
Thanks Ted, I am quite pleased yes, the only issue is the aftermarket seat foam is quite hard and doesn't give so it's a bit more of a reach to the floor, care needed when paddling it about
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 28, 2025, 09:03:38 AM
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Post by: K2-K6 on February 28, 2025, 10:17:45 AM
The sound of these having very particular cadence/ nuance that's often commented on as a "fault" a happy one having distinct and polite rustle, mixed with smooth running and a touch of miscellaneous primary and gearbox oscillation derived characteristics. This one sounds exactly in that character, indication of good mechanical and balanced setup.
They do stand quite separately in character, a fine example of which you've got there.
Post by: Honda enthusiast on February 28, 2025, 09:34:49 PM
Bike looks very nice, also sounds very good too.
The sound of these having very particular cadence/ nuance that's often commented on as a "fault" a happy one having distinct and polite rustle, mixed with smooth running and a touch of miscellaneous primary and gearbox oscillation derived characteristics. This one sounds exactly in that character, indication of good mechanical and balanced setup.
They do stand quite separately in character, a fine example of which you've got there.
Thanks for the encouragement, I'm also confident now that it's sound, it's runs well smoothly without hunting , missing or lugging with clutch basket noise... personally I love that sohc 750/4 sound as you say it's a mix of rustling top end and chains harmonics , a 70's noise that appeals. I have a set of Wirth German progressive fork springs and with those fitted and the good yss shocks on it, there's a good chance of a rewarding satisfying ride.
Time to wait for better weather and unsalted roads and get some road miles in ..a good end to eighteen months , cheers to all of you with input and help😊👍👍
Post by: royhall on March 02, 2025, 11:25:31 AM
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Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 02, 2025, 01:07:47 PM
A credit to you and a lovely addition to the collection. The video never makes them sound as 'in the flesh' and I've never had a 750 but wasn't aware they did a diesel version (🤡, ok, I'll get me coat!)Joking aside, I can't wait to see it when we get the chance to meet up when the salt's all gone.
It may be a wee while yet for me though as I've just had a week in hospital and now have twin exhaust pipes (not even chromed!) from my kidneys, plus the inevitable catheter! (3 bags full sir!)
Ian
Post by: taysidedragon on March 02, 2025, 01:41:35 PM
Another great job done Hubert!
A credit to you and a lovely addition to the collection. The video never makes them sound as 'in the flesh' and I've never had a 750 but wasn't aware they did a diesel version (🤡, ok, I'll get me coat!)Joking aside, I can't wait to see it when we get the chance to meet up when the salt's all gone.
It may be a wee while yet for me though as I've just had a week in hospital and now have twin exhaust pipes (not even chromed!) from my kidneys, plus the inevitable catheter! (3 bags full sir!)
Ian
Lovely bike Hubert. It's a credit to you.
Sorry to hear that you’ve been in hospital Ian. Hopefully it won't keep you off the bikes for too long. 👍
Post by: Honda enthusiast on March 02, 2025, 02:08:19 PM
Concerned to hear you've been unwell, Ian hope you are on the road to being well enough to go home 🏡...the main thing is to be a survivor, I've had my unwell spells and am still here , touch wood 👍 take care, home soon for you
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 02, 2025, 05:34:36 PM
Another great job done Hubert!Glad to hear you’re home Ian. Said hello to your Cub yesterday at DR D’s, shame Doug’s is still there.
A credit to you and a lovely addition to the collection. The video never makes them sound as 'in the flesh' and I've never had a 750 but wasn't aware they did a diesel version (🤡, ok, I'll get me coat!)Joking aside, I can't wait to see it when we get the chance to meet up when the salt's all gone.
It may be a wee while yet for me though as I've just had a week in hospital and now have twin exhaust pipes (not even chromed!) from my kidneys, plus the inevitable catheter! (3 bags full sir!)
Ian
If I could offload a couple of 90’s I would consider it.🤔
Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 02, 2025, 08:01:31 PM
Not wishing to hi-jack Hubert's thread, which has been a wonderful journey, you know Cubs inside out and that bike which Doug bought new just after me is about as good as they get and I'm sure Kathleen would be very pleased if it stayed 'in the family'. The 125 is a great thing and very useable for distances - I'm sure a couple of your 90's would quickly find good local homes.
Kettle's on if you end up in the wild west - even got biscuits!
Ian
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 02, 2025, 09:37:47 PM
Hi Johnny,Brilliant! Very kind of you, is it Yorkshire Tea? 😜
Not wishing to hi-jack Hubert's thread, which has been a wonderful journey, you know Cubs inside out and that bike which Doug bought new just after me is about as good as they get and I'm sure Kathleen would be very pleased if it stayed 'in the family'. The 125 is a great thing and very useable for distances - I'm sure a couple of your 90's would quickly find good local homes.
Kettle's on if you end up in the wild west - even got biscuits!
Ian
Post by: Honda enthusiast on March 02, 2025, 09:45:19 PM
Jokes about a super smooth running CB750 being a diesel don't go down well either...both show a lack of respect
Just saying 🤔
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 02, 2025, 09:55:09 PM
Post by: Honda enthusiast on March 02, 2025, 10:03:33 PM
That's a job well done Hubert, she looks lovely.Thanks Julie, it's everything I'd hoped it to be, it's not all perfect on it like the engine paint that needs touching up but I'm happy and going to enjoy riding it 😊.
Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 02, 2025, 10:05:44 PM
Ian
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 03, 2025, 06:45:05 PM
How about starting another tea and biscuits thread , Ian and Johnny...makes my restoration threà d look sillyAs I know even less about tea and biscuits than I know about bikes, I don’t think I’ll be going down that road Hubert! Apologies for taking a detour on your superb build thread!
Jokes about a super smooth running CB750 being a diesel don't go down well either...both show a lack of respect
Just saying 🤔
Post by: K2-K6 on March 04, 2025, 10:29:41 AM
I feel, when riding them in contemporary use, that there was often fuss made of them and Japanese bikes generally of not handling well. Often this by people that had never ridden example of what they were talking about either.
To me the 750 is a very neutral and decently competent chassis. Certainly with rider only it handled well and seemed to be unjustly criticised often by a brit focused press and relayed parrot fashion across folklore type projection.
I didn't have a direct comparison in riding brit bikes at that time, but more recently having ridden example of these, still feels the same. There's no real night and day detrimental characteristics in the Honda. Very high speed, added pillion and perhaps more severe production racing operation I could see bringing more critical appraisal, but likely the same for most road bikes.
Rear shocks, while adequate for solo and legal road riding would be target for extensive pillion work or very high energy and speed situations in changes that could be desirable and one which you've obviously considered here. Girling gas shocks, when contemporary, seemed to go too far towards restricting suspension at least for solo road work, generally being bone hard like that, but more optimum when carrying pillion.
As with most bikes, headstock bearings and swingarm pivot in good condition bring a foundation basis to then choose more freely suspension component.
I've a particular dislike of headstock either with play and any notching of the bottom race, ultimately to affect the steering. Again in contemporary use most in use that I rode with used taper roller headsets (from Dresda shop in Putney :) ) that were a drop in replacement and very good in their effect.
Tyre sensitivity, was notable in rear getting worn square and starting that way in Avon Road runner at that that time. I used Dunlop Red Arrow or 1st gen Pirelli Phantom with much rounder profile (TT 100 wore too quickly into flat on rear) which worked as good match for the chassis design, that also evolving with decent round profile in original Bridgestone pattern.
Forks, I usually use a lighter damping oil of decent quality to ensure they don't give that heavily damped feel, with "bobbing" over smaller road irregularities. Sounds a good choice to go with a quality progressive spring as you've chosen.
It often frustrates that even now there's the assumption these weren't all that good in handling (that's in general Internet view) when so many of them must have covered literally a combined millions of miles since coming to market. Every big bike race visited in early years had thousands of them parked, both brit and often continental registered.
I was riding a K6 home in early hours of the "great storm" of 1987 :) after closing a factory and getting staff away as the roof was lifing up and down, a few detour for blocked roads, but remarkable in its stability, even riding on a straight road at about 30 degree lean ;D
Seems like you'll have a very nice riding bike there to me. Always look good with the four pipes too.
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 04, 2025, 12:09:11 PM