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Title: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 10, 2023, 02:59:08 PM
Even as a teenager I would always feel a slight surge of Adrenaline rush as I prepared to go out on my bike - it would always subside within a few yards of riding off - only returning if I rode too fast or had a rear wheel skid.

As the decades have passed with my bikes being more powerful I have detected a greater apprehension before I ride out - again I usually calmed down within a few yards of riding off.

After a fair gap between parting with my XJ900 (2009) and first riding again on my 400 (2022) I have detected a more severe raising of my anxiety levels - thankfully it does subside after riding a short distance as I ease back into the routine.

Is this me starting to loose my bottle at the age of 75 or just being more aware of the greater impact of injury not just due to more traffic, idiot drivers as well.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Athame57 on August 10, 2023, 03:52:20 PM
Is it a good idea to tempt adrenalin at our age (well, most of us on here are grey haired at least!) I don't myself anymore, but I'm not on German driving school BMW R65.... they put you on a big bike from the very start and you stay with a driving school car in font or passenger until you get your licence, it took me three weeks from never having ridden bar a 15mph step through moped ('Mofa') to getting a licence, and I had to do an extra week because I flunked my first test so it could have been two. I felt weak kneed and sick in the stomach for the first week, the last time I felt that way was when being made to climb rock faces as a young soldier! My first rides onto the motorway with my first Suzuki RG500 had me feeling over supplied with adrenalin too.
Nowadays my relaxed rides on Elen, my CB400F don't bring adrenalin just pleasure.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Oddjob on August 10, 2023, 04:18:32 PM
Nope, don't feel much of anything when stepping over the seat, a little excitement TBH, I little curiosity I'll admit to as I ponder what sort of lean angles I can get this ride. I don't get anxious at all out riding, even when it's wet, I find it relaxing. I think I'm so concentrated on the road I tend not to feel much TBH except the thrill of getting the footrests grinding on the road, which is almost impossible on the 1300 and far too easy on the 500.

I've been riding on the road since I was 16, far too long to get worried about it. I did however feel apprehensive first ride out after getting my last 1300 written off, it had an effect for about a month and then I was ok again. 
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Johnny4428 on August 10, 2023, 04:24:35 PM
Used to lay up all bikes for winter, but now keep the Pan on the road over winter. That few rides in the winter keeps the spring time apprehension at bay. Works for me. Must admit quite relaxed on bikes, with a little excitement thrown in.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 10, 2023, 05:13:52 PM
Interesting - I'm okay once I ride off it's just the apprehension beforehand.

I've have only ever  really had one accident on a bike when I was a pillion as a teenager that cost me three months in traction with a fractured left femur. Never been a pillion since.

 
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Athame57 on August 10, 2023, 06:24:43 PM
Is this me starting to loose my bottle at the age of 75 or just being more aware of the greater impact of injury not just due to more traffic, idiot drivers as well.
Never gave that bit enough attention! Yes, approaching side roads on main roads especially is what worries me, I've nearly got it a few times that way. I'm in east central London ( Tower Hamlets) and I know for a fact there are a lot of people here  :-X who had someone else take their test, it shows. Many people here have that habit of starting to move forward as you approach as well.  >:(
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 10, 2023, 06:55:51 PM
I never liked driving in London when my Missus lived in North Finchley when she worked in London back in the 1990's. I used to go down for some weekends either on my XJ900 or by car.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: taysidedragon on August 10, 2023, 07:02:55 PM
I think it's quite normal to feel apprehensive if you've had a long break from any acttivity that requires skill and practice and may carry a level of risk. When you've got back into practice  and ride regularly any apprehension should gradually diminish. The answer is to get out there and ride!
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 10, 2023, 08:45:12 PM
That makes sense I've not ridden my 400 this year so I need to get out on it - I've prioritised working on my 500 plus stuff at home in a spiral of procrastination.

If the rain holds of I will be out tomorrow - assuming she fires up, put the battery on charge last night so no excuses.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: K2-K6 on August 10, 2023, 09:00:37 PM
I think adrenaline is amusing/amazing in its potency though, just when you realise you yourself are just about to completely balls it up, that cApow of adrenaline soon let's you know. Incredible how instant it is.

Trepidation, yes if you've not done something in a while. I feel like Ken says though, relaxing to ride a bike, any bike really.  Was riding my 750 home in the great storm of 87 ? and thought it was a bit "gusty"  :) had locked up the factory was running a shift on by about 4:00am as had to send staff home with roof flapping so much ! Couple of re routes because of road blocked, went home to bed and got up to the news of devastation.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 10, 2023, 09:09:32 PM
Is this me starting to loose my bottle at the age of 75 or just being more aware of the greater impact of injury not just due to more traffic, idiot drivers as well.
Never gave that bit enough attention! Yes, approaching side roads on main roads especially is what worries me, I've nearly got it a few times that way. I'm in east central London ( Tower Hamlets) and I know for a fact there are a lot of people here  :-X who had someone else take their test, it shows. Many people here have that habit of starting to move forward as you approach as well.  >:(

Riding in London is the pits just as it is in any big city but London is full of idiots. So many times have I nearly been wiped out by drivers who just don't look or are on their phones either talking or texting. Filtering through traffic I see it all the time. Speed limits are also optional here with so many side roads used as rat runs with nobs doing 40 thinking it's normal. I no longer turn left to ride into London (including outer London) anymore but turn right to go into the countryside. I do sometimes get a little apprehensive as although I am IAM and try to anticipate all the dangers sometimes it is impossible to take into account the idiots who shouldn't be allowed in what is basically a potential murder weapon.
The best safety device a car manufacturer can place in a car is a big pointed spike mounted in the centre of the steering wheel one inch from the drivers chest, that would cut accidents overnight. Instead manufacturers install safety devices to allow drivers to do everything but look where they are going!
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 10, 2023, 09:19:12 PM
Adrenaline is indeed a wonderful natural drug. When I used to run I would be as nervous as hell before the race right up to the start whistle blowing but as soon as I'd taken a few strides the adrenaline took over and it was fantastic. Even when finishing a half marathon I'd still be buzzing for hours after. Same feeling when I used to race speedway. I think you do need a bit of apprehension at the start of a ride if you haven't ridden for a while, it keeps you safe and heightens the senses. It wears off as the ride progresses and you become more relaxed.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 10, 2023, 09:21:31 PM
I think adrenaline is amusing/amazing in its potency though, just when you realise you yourself are just about to completely balls it up, that cApow of adrenaline soon let's you know. Incredible how instant it is.

Trepidation, yes if you've not done something in a while. I feel like Ken says though, relaxing to ride a bike, any bike really.  Was riding my 750 home in the great storm of 87 ? and thought it was a bit "gusty"  :) had locked up the factory was running a shift on by about 4:00am as had to send staff home with roof flapping so much ! Couple of re routes because of road blocked, went home to bed and got up to the news of devastation.

Well going back to the Caveman era it was designed as part of our fight or flight reflexes.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 11, 2023, 10:54:57 AM
As a result of an interesting conversation with my brother I'm reducing my Caffeine intake by switching to less Coffee & more Tea plus cutting back on Monster Energy cans. It might help.🤔
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Johnny4428 on August 11, 2023, 10:57:50 AM
As a result of an interesting conversation with my brother I'm reducing my Caffeine intake by switching to less Coffee & more Tea plus cutting back on Monster Energy cans. It might help.🤔
Better wean yourself off that hard stuff Ted! 🥹
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 11, 2023, 11:09:18 AM
That Monster Drink is termed White Can in our house it contains 150mg of Caffeine per can.

I also like a pint or two of IPA not forgetting my bedtime Schnaps in my Pewter Goblet.😎😎😎
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Johnny4428 on August 11, 2023, 12:00:34 PM
I developed a taste for one of the  local malt whisky’s Highland Park and was quite partial to an evening tipple. But found increasingly that alcohol was having an adverse affect on my ability to have a descent sleep. So it’s a glass of wine now for an evening drink which doesn’t seem to have the same adverse affect.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: MCTID on August 11, 2023, 12:11:25 PM
I never feel or felt fear before going out for a ride on my bike....and I'm certainly no hero ! It's the same in the car..........

Cos I'm an old timer and have always ridden bikes since I was 16 (in 1966) I often get parents who tell me that they won't allow their Kids to ride a motorbike 'as it's just too dangerous', but I always answer them that by the time newbies have been through their bike training nowadays, they are probably as safe as they can be. As far as my concerns about me riding a bike, I honestly think that if I have an accident, then it will probably be my own fault...partly or wholly. I'm sure that attitude keeps me better prepared for riding safely.....especially when I commuted daily from Dorking to Canary Wharf on my bike.

Funnily enough back in my TA days, when we were parked up waiting to start on a Regimental or Battery move (which was often for an hour or more), I was in and out of the Land Rover every 5 minutes for a pee ! I couldn't sit still......and once we were moving I was fine......I have never figured that one out......fear, anticipation, adrenaline or what !
 
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Athame57 on August 11, 2023, 01:09:32 PM
As a result of an interesting conversation with my brother I'm reducing my Caffeine intake by switching to less Coffee & more Tea plus cutting back on Monster Energy cans. It might help.🤔
Do what I do and blend decaf with regular. Or buy cheapest, it is full of chicory!
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 11, 2023, 01:22:02 PM
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Funnily enough back in my TA days, when we were parked up waiting to start on a Regimental or Battery move (which was often for an hour or more), I was in and out of the Land Rover every 5 minutes for a pee ! I couldn't sit still......and once we were moving I was fine......I have never figured that one out......fear, anticipation, adrenaline or what !
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Yep, that made me laugh. Everytime before I go out for a ride I always go for a pee. Within 20 minutes of being out I want to go again! I think it's a fear of not being able to find a toilet!!
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: taysidedragon on August 11, 2023, 02:11:13 PM
It's old age Dave! 👴😂
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 11, 2023, 02:50:39 PM
Went out today on the 400 by the time I had all my gear on all was calm - had a short 20 mile run out.

Uneventful aside from the usual hip lock as my 400 is too small for me.

Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: ST1100 on August 12, 2023, 10:19:29 AM
Even as a teenager I would always feel a slight surge of Adrenaline rush as I prepared to go out on my bike - it would always subside within a few yards of riding off - only returning if I rode too fast or had a rear wheel skid.
Not so much, but I was always seriously looking forward to a ride...
Which has faded noticeable, won't care about any short morning/afternoon hops anymore... way too much effort with gearing up, etc...  :o
A one, two, three weeks tour makes more sense... still quite a task with planing, prepping, packing, etc... but once I'm finally on the road I'm into it...  8)
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 12, 2023, 10:45:53 AM
Good point about gearing up taking time & effort. When I was a Tech College student my daily commute was around 10 miles each way. Gearing up consisted of a helmet & Anorak in the summer, no boots or gloves needed. Visor was essential as there were so many insects back then that unlike today.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 23, 2023, 11:08:06 AM
I took advantage of the warm weather this week going out for a couple of 40 mile runs out. On my run up to Leek yesterday I was fine no Adrenaline issues just a relaxed enjoyable ride out.

When riding on two wheels you certainly notice the poor road surfaces. The road out to Bottom Houses is littered with those ribbed concrete strips to make you slow down on bends.
Title: Re: Adrenaline & age does it affect you?
Post by: taysidedragon on August 23, 2023, 04:30:32 PM
I took advantage of the warm weather this week going out for a couple of 40 mile runs out. On my run up to Leek yesterday I was fine no Adrenaline issues just a relaxed enjoyable ride out.

When riding on two wheels you certainly notice the poor road surfaces. The road out to Bottom Houses is littered with those ribbed concrete strips to make you slow down on bends.

Rattle the false teeth, don't they! 🤣
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