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SOHC.co.uk Forums => SOHC Singles & Twins => Topic started by: AshimotoK0 on June 17, 2024, 04:29:40 PM
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Don't think it's a scam ... but there again it is on Facebook !
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That could be quite a story attached to that bike Ash! Nice rack on it too. Lot of recommissioning required I would think, know nothing about them so wouldn’t like to hazard a guess at a value.
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Wasn't the Deluxe the one with the leccy start? With that low milage at least it may work as were they not a bit dodgy?
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Wasn't the Deluxe the one with the leccy start? With that low milage at least it may work as were they not a bit dodgy?
Yes it's the electric start model.
Here is a better picture ...looks like it has 'L' plates ... maybe it was laid up when the new learner laws came in.
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That looks like a very nice little project. Apart from some putting of the exhaust it looks in really good condition. Maybe the PO laid it up after thinking it was too powerful for them?
Are you going to make an offer Ash, it's got to be worth £2k because it does need a full re-commission and that won't be cheap with new tubes and tires, battery, probably a full brake strip, rusty tank, carb rebuild etc. The bore could well be rusty (and the cam if it's been sitting in a damp shed). It is a nice project but only for the right money.
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That looks like a very nice little project. Apart from some putting of the exhaust it looks in really good condition. Maybe the PO laid it up after thinking it was too powerful for them?
Are you going to make an offer Ash, it's got to be worth £2k because it does need a full re-commission and that won't be cheap with new tubes and tires, battery, probably a full brake strip, rusty tank, carb rebuild etc. The bore could well be rusty (and the cam if it's been sitting in a damp shed). It is a nice project but only for the right money.
No not for me Dave already sunk too much into my RSA . TBH I prefer the earlier model. People are bandying around a figure of £3k on F.B. or suggesting he sells to DS for museum or send to Mathewsons. It's supposedly been in dry storage since new.
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I agree with you there Ash. The original RSA has the purity of a basic, simple and very stylish bike. The original metallic blue was my favourite colour, the red was also good looking but the black made the bike look a bit dull imo.
The RSD lost that purity with the redesign of the decals that were great for the 80’s but have not stood the test of time. The electric start bolted on behind the barrel with the overhang of the mechanism didn't look great (and as Micky alluded to, was very unreliable just as it was on the FT500 and to a degree on the XBR). The later CBX though was a nice looking bike.
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Hi everyone.
That was my post on fb.
I now have the bike at my house and have been cleaning it up.
Carb rebuild.
Brakes bled and working well.
Fuel tank cleaned and conditioned. It does have some surface rust showing in some areas through the paint but holds fuel. I’ve put an inline filter on anyway.
So she starts and runs well now and I’m not sure how far I should go with a project like this??
It was owned by a guy who had it from new but as you say the law changed and he could no longer ride on L plates so it just sat there!!
I have the original bill of sale.
The one tax disc it’s ever had.
Service history book showing the running in service.
The original v5 which I’ll keep and just swap the ownership on line.
With such low mileage it must make it as rare as hens teeth but I really have no idea on its value or where to potentially sell it??
If anyone has and suggestions or ideas about how far to go with restoration I would be grateful.
Thanks for reading this 😊😊
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Pop it on eBay with no reserve - that'll show you what someone / anyone is willing to pay....and hence it's value.
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Bung it on eBay with a reserve of 3k and get a gauge of what people will pay up to without giving it away.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/167047267094?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IMcWkN_NSNO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=iSYQRLsmTgO&var&widget_ver=artemis&media=FB&fbclid=IwY2xjawGLPO9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVcToWeGF092PYUdGNBrkrhQOIJPVBhX4ORurXi-FpV-IYifyQdx2zzPcw_aem_MChlhMdlVcAWYpbZ_qunrA
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Wow, £3,500, six bids and still six days to go, it's doing really well. I'm just going to kick myself again for selling mine🙁.
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It's a bit like computers the best time to buy one is yesterday or tomorrow, it's never today.
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Wow, £3,500, six bids and still six days to go, it's doing really well. I'm just going to kick myself again for selling mine🙁.
He used your bike for sale at Franks (Motorcycles Unlimited) as an example of the price asked for a fully restored bike Dave !
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Now its £3701 interesting use of the extra pound bid strategy at this rate it will break the 4k barrier.
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Thank God we are civilised beings on here. Seller got a load of flak/negativity/insults when he listed it on Facebook 250RS group.
My only query was the bluing on the exhaust pipes. Looks a bit excessive .... I am not sure if down-pipes were double-skinned on that model. Laverda Dave will know.
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To my knowledge all Honda header pipes of this era were double skinned. Those pipes are very blue and I would be a bit concerned for the state of the engine especially the valves and cam bearings and lobe faces/rocker pads considering there is only just over 1 litre of oil in these motors and it gets very hot and works very hard with so little to go round. These engines always did run hot and the telltale was always rusty headers where they attach to the cylinder head ports due to the damage to chrome plate caused by excessive heat.
Considering the ultra low milage of this bike It could be running very lean or maybe it could be a case of the PO starting and running the engine without actually riding it.
The bidding so far is very high for what might be a rare and low milage example but I really would want to have a good look at that motor (and hear it) before I part with such a large wad of cash, hopefully that is what the bidder's are doing rather than bidding blind based on photos 🤔
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Have I missed something, the bidding has ended with zero bids?
The start price of £3000 remains. Maybe it was bought off-line?
Just thinking about the history as well. The seller mentions the service book is stamped for the running-in service, how can this be when there is only 89 miles on the Speedo, who would get a first service at 89 miles? I would ride 89 miles within a couple of days on a new bike!
This leads me on to those blue header pipes, those pipes should not be that colour after only 89 miles, I can only assume the bike was either thrashed from day one (it was a learner after all), it has been running very lean or maybe (and considering the 89 mile first service) it may have been involved in an accident resulting in a replacement instrument console? Maybe I am adding 2+2 and coming up with 5 but something doesn't seem right here?
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I think the reason the exhausts are so blue is, that they are pattern items.
They certainly are not the pipes that was on the bike in the original
"As found" photograph.
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First service was 500 miles or a set time if you read the book carefully, bit like escort cvh engines where people got upset the cambelt broke at 5 years but only 25,000 miles the book says 36,000 OR 3 years whichever comes first
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Similar to my Moto Morini Bryan, the cam belt must be renewed every 2 years despite the milage. Last time I renewed it I had only ridden just over 200 miles and these belts are expensive as they are individually hand picked! They are the same belt but have to be put on a jig to test for individual slack and are marked as A, B or C. Morini in their wisdom marked the cam and crankshaft gear wheels A, B or C. Put an A belt on a gear wheel marked B and it will be marginally too slack and the timing could be out.
Anyway, back to the thread, I think the comment made by Arch Stanton is correct, the bike on the ebay photo has a different set of headers compared to the 'as found' photos. I still cannot get my head around the 89 miles for the service though, when I was a learner I was out on the bike every moment I could get and 89 miles would be completed within a day or two.
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I doubt it applies to Classic Bike parts, modern car cambelt materials/construction have improved massively since 1984 when my Astra 1600SR (could not afford a GT/E) needed a belt change every 40k miles iirc.
Quite a few manufacturers are now 10 years or 100,000 miles today provided they are not contaminated with oil.
The tensioner wheels or water pumps often start to fail first.
On topic
The first photo I saw the headers looked pimpled with rust as you would expect.
Could it be some clever Photoshop technology at work?
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Have you noticed Ford have dropped the recommended mileage change for their "wet belt" engines by quite a bit, when i picked up my new L200 21 yrs ago on a friday it was booked in for 1st service next monday(3days) trip to family oop north and 600 miles later-----