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Title: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Mikep328 on August 06, 2024, 10:17:29 AM
Did anyone produce fairings for these bikes? - surely someone did!  Any info on them/are any still made?
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 06, 2024, 10:30:54 AM
Only seen photos of the headlamp type fairing.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Bryanj on August 06, 2024, 11:01:44 AM
Hondastyle made by Rickman and several headlamp types back in the day, you will be lucky to find a straight on fit one now
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Athame57 on August 06, 2024, 01:07:40 PM
I don't know what type you want, but I considered an Asahi canvas one, they are nearly universal things. A CB400F would probably want fork gaiters and canvas saddle bags (throw overs) to go with it. I give it a thought myself, but I'd spend the money doing other things for the bike first.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Mikep328 on August 06, 2024, 02:19:02 PM
I was thinking something like this: https://www.bike-urious.com/wp-content/uploads/Dunstall-Norton-Commando-Fairing.jpg

I'm not super serious about this - just casually thinking.  This 400 is the PERFECT moto for me here in the UK for what we do.  So I don't want to do anything that would compromise how it feels/rides and most fairings like the one in the pic would require clip-ons and I don't really want to deal with that on a daily rider.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 06, 2024, 04:42:52 PM
You need to do an internet search for a Rickman Type 1

I will see if I can find a photo of my room-mate’s 400 at Uni.


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Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: K2-K6 on August 06, 2024, 05:50:47 PM
Appears to one of that "ilk" for sale currently

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335415914119

Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: andy120t on August 06, 2024, 06:39:38 PM
In the eighties my friend had a Rickman fairing and top box on his CB250 Superdream. The top box was adorned with a cardboard hand designed to flick the middle finger when a fishing wire was pulled....
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 06, 2024, 08:07:51 PM
Appears to one of that "ilk" for sale currently

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335415914119
That’s the touring version. Type 3 (?)


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Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: ka-ja on August 07, 2024, 10:14:03 AM
i have a mk 1 rickman laid in the garage, needs a bit of work though.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 07, 2024, 11:38:00 AM
i have a mk 1 rickman laid in the garage, needs a bit of work though.
Does it have the mounting brackets. They hooked around the tank mounting points (had to cut down the rubbers). They were impossible to find.


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Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: ka-ja on August 09, 2024, 10:16:18 AM
It Has a mounting bracket that would need "doctoring" as it was  originally altered for clip ons, it mounts on the horn area frame web and the front downtube, probably not originally for a 400/4, its 40 yrs since I used it, a long time to remember!!
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: TrickyMicky on August 09, 2024, 10:56:02 AM
If you do fit a fairing and have to make your own brackets, please make sure that they are man enough for the job and mounted to something substantial. Vibration and wind pressure can wreak havoc after a while, and then what normally happens is they break and the fairing just drops and gets trapped under a wheel.  Sad memories of Ian Ashwell at the 1968 Brighton Speed Trials.  Stay safe everyone.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 09, 2024, 01:40:09 PM
I had a 1/2 length Rickman fairing on my original 400/4 back in the very early 80's. It was a bit like the Polaris fairing without the lower panels and had very substantial fixings to the forks and handlebars. I bought the bike with all the luggage fitted as it had been used for touring by the PO. It had a small opening compartment on the front above the headlight. I went with a mate (who's 400/4 I now own) to Wells-next-the-Sea for a weekend. The bike was very lightly loaded. On the way home home we were on a motorway and we overtook some cars at about 80ish. When I went back in to the inside lane and dropped back down to 70 the bike went into a violent and uncontrollable tank slapper, it took me across the three lanes of the motorway and nearly into the central reservation. It was caused by the fairing being so large and heavy as it was double skinned.
I removed the fairing and all the luggage after that episode and never had a problem again. I was lucky the bike was a 95MPH red F and not the125MPH Parakeet Yellow F2, who knows what could have happened at those warp speeds  ;). At least it cured my constipation :o
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Aye Gee 1977 on August 10, 2024, 07:34:13 PM
Image of a contemporary fairing on a bike I bought new in 1977.

The fairing was added after a couple of years.  It is branded Honda but I think Rickman was the manufacturer.  The bike was ridden to exhaustion before being consigned to the back of the garage in 1983. It took me a mere 40 years to start the restoration.

Does anyone have a good rear mudguard outer, please?
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 10, 2024, 07:53:29 PM
Lovely looking bike back in the day. Definitely a Rickman fairing with Honda branding applied. They really were barn doors, effective but big and heavy. When I took mine off it was a huge weight, no wonder it produced a tank slapper!
Did you add extra rivets to the seat?
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: XS850 on August 11, 2024, 09:15:31 AM
Those were fitted to the Courier Company’s CB400’s which I rode in 78, my impression then was the bike was “gutless” and (very) interesting to ride around London - they moved onto the 400 “Dream” with similar fairing which felt a lot better on distance riding! Couldn’t understand then why everyone was raving about the 400/4 but (just) maybe it was due to the fairing and me being used to a bigger bike (Yamaha XS750) with more “grunt” - I’m looking forward to being pleasantly surprised once I’ve got my 400/4 finished (another year yet)!
Bruce
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Aye Gee 1977 on August 11, 2024, 09:31:20 AM
I only had one memorable tank slapper in over 60,000 miles and I can't remember whether the fairing was fitted at that time or not.

I padded out the seat over the standard cover and topped the lot with a vinyl cover, fixed with stainless steel screws into the seat pan
  When the extra cover was removed, the screws (not rivets) were replaced.

There is a Peter Furlong full chaincase fitted too, for those that like period extras.

Don't expect too much of the performance - but I am not disappointed.  It always needed its neck wringing to make good progress.
Title: Re: Fairings for CB400F?
Post by: Mikep328 on August 11, 2024, 10:09:31 AM
I can't imagine that huge fairing on a CB400F.  I had a friend with one on his CB750 and I thought IT was gutless!  :) 
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