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Title: battery choices
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 14, 2025, 06:06:49 PM
Thinking forward to next spring and a new battery.

Can I run an AGM battery alongside the OEM regulator ?

My gut feeling is no because of the slightly higher voltage needed for full charge.

What are other folk using, good or bad?

My current Yuasa battery has only lasted 3 years despite being hooked up to an optimate charger.
I bought the charger soon after the battery because I thought it might extend the battery life.  Prior to this the battery was always removed over winter and charged on the bench regularly with a power supply, at constant voltage of 14 v and 1 amp current limit until it gassed out. Got 5 years out of a no name battery with Chinese writing on it.

Also - the yellow brick batteries, do they hook up ok to existing cables that have the rubber boot on the +ve.

Regards
Dave.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Athame57 on July 14, 2025, 06:15:05 PM
I got one of these Vertex maintenance free batteries ages ago from DSS, I'm well impressed with it.  :)
https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB400F-SUPER-SPORT-FOUR/part_333450
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Bryanj on July 14, 2025, 06:17:29 PM
Agm ok lion not, i have been very happy with Tanya batteries
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 14, 2025, 06:46:54 PM
I was looking at Tanya last night after scanning previous posts, spoilt for choice so that's why I thought it a good idea to canvas opinions on what's currently available.

One half of me is thinking get a cheap one and expect to bin it after a couple of years, the other half is saying buy something decent and hope it lasts.

Yasua was always  the go to battery for bikes which influenced my choice last time.  Though this wasn't straight forward.  Ordered it from Halfords, got it home and the cells were half full. Took it straight back for a refund.  Ordered another from a local KTM dealer and they had to get it in from a warehouse in Belgium and assured me that they added the acid two days before I picked it up.  Getting flooded batteries with an acid pack  is not so easy these days.

Regards
Dave


Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 14, 2025, 08:25:51 PM
I always go for Mottabatt's (the yellow brick).  The one in my 400/4 has been in there over six years now, no problems at all 10/10. I had two Yuasa's on my old Triumph Sprint ST1050, both died with no warning at all.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 14, 2025, 08:35:13 PM
In the great scheme of things, batteries are so very cheap these days.
We always buy them from Tayna (I can't tell you which type without looking and I'm away at the moment). I think Graham buys new batteries for our bikes every 4 years at the latest, regardless of the health of the battery. We never use trickle chargers either.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Mikep328 on July 14, 2025, 09:53:55 PM
There's a Motobatt (yellow) in my 400, which was there when I bought the bike two years ago.  It seems to be fine but when a new batt is needed I'd probably just buy one from DSS! ;)

FWIW, my wife's 2019 NC750x original battery just gave out.  It was fine riding all day; She shut it off outside the garage and when she went to move it in a few minutes later, all she got was a chattering solenoid.  SO... the idea of periodically replacing a batt regardless of its apparent condition is not a bad idea.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Jan B on July 14, 2025, 10:07:26 PM
Motobatt here for 5 plus years without any issue. During winter on a ctek tricklecharger.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Johnny4428 on July 15, 2025, 06:48:05 AM
Yellow bricks for me too, trickle charges and optimisers in the winter lay up months. Last for years.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Bradders on July 15, 2025, 07:37:50 AM
I also have a yellow brick battery on my 400/4. It was put on by the previous owner and I’ve had the bike over 6 years with no problem with the battery.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: SeanFD on July 15, 2025, 07:47:00 AM
I've been using Motobatt AGM for the last 7-8 years, with no problems. For reasons beyond my control, one of them took some abuse, was recovered and lasted for quite a while thereafter.

I get them from Tanya though you have to search for them specifically on the website.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 15, 2025, 08:16:44 AM
Mootobatt's were originally designed for snowmobiles and the harsh weather they endure so having one on a motorbike gives them an easy life 😊. I've got four in total on my bikes and never had a failure apart from when the regulator failed in my VFR and cooked it (it was so buckled and swollen it was a job to get it out of the tray!).
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 16, 2025, 08:09:42 PM
Thanks all.  I shall persist with the manual starting method for the rest of this season and keep an eye out for any 'special offers'.  I always use the kick start for a cold start anyway, just an inconvenience when cold and  it stalls at the top of our road and there's someone getting impatient behind me.

Going to lash up a mini voltmeter just to keep an eye on things before a new battery goes on. Taking it through the rev range on the stand with a voltmeter clipped on the battery looks ok but no desire to go down the road with a Fluke multimeter bungied to the bars.

Regards
Dave :(
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: Bryanj on July 16, 2025, 08:48:13 PM
You have no sense of adventure!, you could use a small multimeterconnected inside the shell and taped to top yoke
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 16, 2025, 09:16:28 PM
Did similar with hand held gps once and nearly lost it in lane 2 of the dual carriageway while checking the speedometer.

Just got a miniature voltmeter from AliExpress and that was the plan now I have a switched live in the shell fused down to 3A.

Regards
Dave
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: MCTID on July 17, 2025, 07:54:12 AM
I have bought a few Batteries (car and bike) from Tayna over the years.

Their prices are as good as any other Battery suppliers and their service is excellent, so happy to recommend.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 17, 2025, 04:39:31 PM
I agree, I used them as well.
Title: Re: battery choices
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 17, 2025, 07:07:16 PM
Temporary arrangement to see how it performs.  Just a bracket made from a piece of sheet aluminium found in the scrap box.

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I feel a winter project coming on to make a housing for it in the same style as the gauges and a neater bracket in stainless.

Regards
Dave
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