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Title: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: JEZZAIRONBRIDGE on July 28, 2025, 12:58:15 PM
Hi.

Just a quick question.
Is there a set Torque for the Lower Hexagon (Allen Key) Bolt?
Can't seem to find the setting, if there is one.
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2025, 01:19:53 PM
Generic 8mm bolt in manual, use new copper washer
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Athame57 on July 28, 2025, 01:53:14 PM
Generic 8mm bolt in manual, use new copper washer
I just checked on CMSL, part # 90116283010 is an 8mm allen bolt. Assuming Jezza means the one that secures the seat of the internal pipe.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2025, 02:03:27 PM
Hex head external or internal allen its still 8mm so generic torque unless specified different
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Athame57 on July 28, 2025, 02:12:30 PM
Maybe there is no official torque setting. Looking at the reccomended tool for the job, it doesn't seem to lend itself to onne.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2025, 03:35:23 PM
Yup but square drive hex keys were not common when the manual was written, now they are easy to get, even long ones from at least snap on
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 28, 2025, 04:20:07 PM
I have just used a hand impact driver and a few taps with a hammer to nip them up.

Regarding the copper washers, just rub them over a flat surface with 600 wet'n'dry to clean and heat to red colour with a blow torch to anneal them Never had one leak so far.

Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Athame57 on July 28, 2025, 06:45:32 PM
I think, if I remember right from Nurse Julies rebuild that replacing the allen bolt can be a pain because the pipe is reluctant to recieve and needs to be restrained or something to prevent rotation?
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 28, 2025, 07:39:14 PM
You're right George, there's nothing so stop it spinning round inside other than a small amount of friction, hence the need for a rattle gun or impact driver.  It's the same when it comes to undoing them, about half a turn and the whole lot just spins round.

Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: JEZZAIRONBRIDGE on July 28, 2025, 08:14:04 PM
Thanks all for information.
Looks to be interesting re build.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 28, 2025, 09:06:27 PM
I pushed a length of wooden broom handle down the sanction to compress the spring tight against the damper to stop it turning.
Make sure the seat where the copper washer sits is absolutely clean, being so close to the road it gets a lot of muck thrown at it.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 28, 2025, 10:59:09 PM
My method was a little less dignified.

Clamped the slider in a B&D workmate so that it's feet were held  quite a way off the floor and then sat on the workmate with the slider between my legs compress the spring. Then hammered away at the impact driver taking care not to miss.

Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: JEZZAIRONBRIDGE on July 29, 2025, 03:23:08 PM
Fork Seal fitment.
I am replacing Seals that have previously been replaced.
Need to be sure I am fitting them correct way up, or down.
If previously fitted wrong would like to be sure I am now fitting them correctly.
Can you advise how to tell.
Many thanks.

Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: exvalvesetdabbler on July 29, 2025, 03:47:55 PM
The open side with the spring visible goes down
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: JEZZAIRONBRIDGE on July 29, 2025, 03:55:14 PM
My new Honda Seals have Seals inner and outer
Part number 91255 413 881 from D. Silver.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 29, 2025, 04:10:00 PM
The embossed writing on the seal faces upwards when fitted.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: JEZZAIRONBRIDGE on July 29, 2025, 06:15:05 PM
Thanks very much for guidance.
Gone this far, want to be sure all is correct.
Very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Athame57 on July 29, 2025, 07:41:18 PM
I think there is a tool for pushing the seals home without damaging them, but lacking that any hacks anyone?
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 29, 2025, 08:04:12 PM
I think there is a tool for pushing the seals home without damaging them, but lacking that any hacks anyone?
Use the seal you've removed George. Place on top of new seal and tap home.
Title: Re: Front Fork Lower Allen Bolt
Post by: Athame57 on July 29, 2025, 09:20:57 PM
Use the seal you've removed George. Place on top of new seal and tap home.
Gotcha, one for the next time!  ;D