Honda-SOHC
Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: K2-K6 on October 31, 2025, 07:47:52 PM
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I've a reasonable range of tools, not excessive, but like things that pull their weight for projects and maintenance.
With some recent consideration in wondering about filling a little gap, bought on of these "MILWAUKEE M12BLIDRC-202B 12v BRUSHLESS IMPACT DRIVER" as a light duty/bench work and small form device.
Screws, small bolts, torx, hex key all in my intended range. I dont have anything of this brand, and so no commonality with battery, charger etc. It looked tbe most balanced in being compact, sufficient torque, controlled application at slow & delicate movement of targeted items.
I'm honestly very surprised at just how good this is. Genuinely small form and superbly applied torque even for the most delicate fixings (metal screws into plastic housings) with such a wide range of use because you can get access relatively easily.
A 1/4 inch hex drive, which will need either a converter to something like 1/4 &3/8 square to bring sockets into play. Have also bought others for torx and Allen key straight to chuck in native fit.
Bought from here https://www.angliatoolcentre.co.uk/milwaukee-m12blidrc-202b-12v-brushless-impact-driver-2-x-2-0ah-batteries-charger-and-bag-pid53455.html as best priced deal (having no charger or batteries in my possession) it's not a cheap bargain basement item, and a little of a punt to find out. But, utterly convincing as very adaptable and genuinely useful tool for the workshop.
As a test, put a 1/2 square to 17mm impact socket on, then tried the wheel nuts on family VW that are torqued to 90 ft/lb .... and it juuuuust about got them undone. Apparently out of range and not particularly practical, but demonstrated some level of potential.
As I've noted, I bought it for the other end of range specifically, but practical band width is very impressive from the delicate and small end all the way up to serious level.
Postal delivery was exceptional from that dealer too, one which I've not previously used.
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Sounds impressive Nigel.
If you bought this for the low end of the range for fixing etc does it have adjustable tongue settings?
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No, its just on the trigger pressure to modulate, so not a tool to definitive tightening to x specific torque setting.
Similar in use to a simple 1/4 drive socket set, or plain old screwdriver really.
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Another item "Knipex Twin Grip" pliers.
Site for easy look at item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365484132955 I've not bought from them.
For when things are broken, damaged by previous owner :) failed drive surface etc, these are the most tenacious type I've used.
Particularly good is the "fish mouth" jaw that really grips stud etc vertically .... you know those times when ordinarily pliers slip off in awkward access situations .... usually to pinch a piece of skin on your hand somewhere in producing a blood blister >:(
These are just good when most hope is lost, I've bought the 200mm size, a great addition to toolbox.
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Iv used my Makita impact driver on my triumph tiger exhaust manifold recently. Just gently hammer away at rusty nuts. All but one came off.
Had it for years and used daily but only just thought about using on the bikes.
My pet hate with them is when carpenters put door handles and hinges on and round the heads off.
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Power tools are great for removing nuts, bolts etc., but I would advise against using them for tightening fully. Some are able to strip out a thread in the blink of an eye. Use it to spin it up slowly till a slight resistance, then finish by hand or torque wrench.
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Power tools are great for removing nuts, bolts etc., but I would advise against using them for tightening fully. Some are able to strip out a thread in the blink of an eye. Use it to spin it up slowly till a slight resistance, then finish by hand or torque wrench.
Milwaukee also do one with Torque-Sense control, used it to refit car engine under trays that are secured with torx head self tappers.
Stops before it strips.
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Iv used my Makita impact driver on my triumph tiger exhaust manifold recently. Just gently hammer away at rusty nuts. All but one came off.
Had it for years and used daily but only just thought about using on the bikes.
My pet hate with them is when carpenters put door handles and hinges on and round the heads off.
Similar for me, up until now I've got only 2 Makita, 1 impact screwdriver (which I've used alot for this type stuff) added a native 1/2 drive impact to that, predominantly for working on cars. My son also using Makita for carpentry etc. So all makita battery and would be ideal to stay in that mix of compatibility. Its with reluctance that I took another battery system.
Oh, forgot I added a Makita torch (small led light panel with multi position head) recently, that's also very good. Fits our batteries and has impressive coverage for an ad-hoc task light. DML801 model @ approx £30 in 18v size. Their stuff is generally tough and long lasting.
This one (Milwaukee) bought purely for its size and low level sensitivity really .... not much available in this "sub" sector to match it honestly.
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Another item "Knipex Twin Grip" pliers.
Site for easy look at item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365484132955 I've not bought from them.
For when things are broken, damaged by previous owner :) failed drive surface etc, these are the most tenacious type I've used.
Particularly good is the "fish mouth" jaw that really grips stud etc vertically .... you know those times when ordinarily pliers slip off in awkward access situations .... usually to pinch a piece of skin on your hand somewhere in producing a blood blister >:(
These are just good when most hope is lost, I've bought the 200mm size, a great addition to toolbox.
Used Knipex side cutters and water pump pliers professionally for many years, IMHO well worth paying extra for quality.
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Best tools are the ones you make yourself.
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This one for getting the front bearing retainer ring out. Threaded in the middle so that a piece of threaded rod goes through to the other side to clamp it in place so it doesn't cam out and chew up the slots. Angled bar gives a flat face for whacking with a mallet.
Regards
Dave
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Chunky, but does the job. 👍
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I'm a fan of Milwaukee tools, I already had a Kielder 1/2 Impact driver that I bought for car wheel nuts together with suitable torque sticks for cars.
As has been said power tools are good at undoing bolts etc, I have a low range and a separate high range torque spanner for most tightening jobs.
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Best tools are the ones you make yourself.
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This one for getting the front bearing retainer ring out. Threaded in the middle so that a piece of threaded rod goes through to the other side to clamp it in place so it doesn't cam out and chew up the slots. Angled bar gives a flat face for whacking with a mallet.
Regards
Dave
Made one similar, but yours is better thought out with the threaded rod idea to hold it tightly in place.
I'm off to carry out that modification on mines now.
Good tip
Cheers
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Best tools are the ones you make yourself.
Undoubtedly, for it is my trained for trade, officially :D
Nice work there.
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I'm a fan of Milwaukee tools, I already had a Kielder 1/2 Impact driver that I bought for car wheel nuts together with suitable torque sticks for cars.
As has been said power tools are good at undoing bolts etc, I have a low range and a separate high range torque spanner for most tightening jobs.
They seem well designed, in my admittedly limited experience Ted.
As perhaps others, starting with one type (battery commonality) it makes sense in adding to that. Makita was the first one I bought as an uncle that ran construction business in Australia told me years before cordless and Makita themselves were not that available in UK, that they were head and shoulders above most for reliability and robustness at the price point.
More recently in watching an Irish yt tool repairer extolling their virtues, particularly the best availability for spares to make repairs possible being better than many others. He shows some atrociously used and abused machines from trades use, each one stripped, cleaned, and rebuilt with necessary spares, to be sent out again for another battering.
He certainly gives lucid insight to general machine design and longevity at the upper end of use cycles.
Milwaukee appear to have jumped the opposition here with their 12v small form tools. And so a separate battery platform is now cohabiting a previously Makita household :)
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An accessory pack that will enhance the power tool in first post, but useful to any 1/4 hex drive type chuck
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Milwaukee-Shockwave-Compact-Pieces-Torx/dp/B0851FV7NR
Currently at £11.90 for quickbit chuck and good range of bits in decent quality.
It's the PZ2 (I think) is a good match for jis type heads. Although a very good range in this little pack for many things encountered, automotive or else.
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An accessory pack that will enhance the power tool in first post, but useful to any 1/4 hex drive type chuck
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Milwaukee-Shockwave-Compact-Pieces-Torx/dp/B0851FV7NR
Currently at £11.90 for quickbit chuck and good range of bits in decent quality.
It's the PZ2 (I think) is a good match for jis type heads. Although a very good range in this little pack for many things encountered, automotive or else.
Looks good, includes tamper proof torx bits and also cheap as chips to buy.
Let us know if the quality is acceptable.
Please don't use PZ2 (pozi drive) on JIS screws tho, you'll risk damaging them.
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I should have expanded my comment about the PZ2 as I seem to recall one of our eminent members on here noting that from their experience.
I haven't checked yet, and so put "i think" as note to it.
I've had a single T handle jis one I've used (bought in 1970s) for these, but broke it recently. A good fit in correct screw, I accidentally moved it to an angle too far ... and snapped the end off the blades.
Its hardened, which had made it last so long without appreciable wear, but ultimately vulnerable to my handling in that situation. I've yet to get another similar to that.
The bits supplied by the reasonably competent brands do last longer than the more unidentified types sold generally.
I'm involved in things other than these Honda too, giving more spread to the others in these sets.
Recently just to change a washer pump on mundane car, located behind and below headlight and accessed through wheel arch, there was 15 torx fixtures to get in there, for which the powered and suitable bit just speeds things up.
Also, if anyone is involved with car ZF autobox service, there's oil filter inside the box pan, that can have 30 or so torx fix, for which this arrangement is ideal.
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Some of the accesories you buy are for different tools... Impact drivers should use bits that are not too hard or they will snap, they should be able to `flex` with the `impact` where as hard ones can be used for non impact screwdrivers (thats enough for the tech stuff. As far as tools and cordless go a few of the manuafcturers have gone into the CAS system (cordless alliance system) the pros and cons are that you can buy from some different makes and not worry about what platform you are on, the negative is that you have to wait for all to agree to up-grade the batteries to a `latest` or different system that may be better. Some companies are owned by a group, such as Milwalkee, AEG, Atlas Copco, Ryobi ect (TTI) some even share or buy products and have them put in their brand name and colours such as most of the woodworking tools in the Hilti range (some made by Bosch, ect). I remember doing a show many years ago when a customer came to the Wolf stand and wanted to by from an `English` manufactured product as he did not wish to by Japnese, he purchased a power plane (which was made by Makita and badged Wolf), so unless you know, you have no idea who makes what and where it comes from??
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Well just recently got the same borescope camera for mob. 'phone that Nigel (K2-K6) has. Incredible for what it cost me.
This is my latest project ... organising my parts into some semblance or order and manageability.
They are Magnusson from Screwfix. The smaller ones were BOGOF recently but the deal has finished now and the large ones are currently heavily discounted... they have removeable bins, which is a really useful feature.
Next purchase is a thermal label printer ..to label everything. and IR camera attachment for my iPad ... this is really to look at electronics I am currently designing but great uses on bikes .. I hope. Waiting for a decent used but almost new one to show up.
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Those bigger ones with the removable trays look like EXACTLY what I need ... might have to grab a couple
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I used something similar to those portable type trays with the hinged lids that are great until the clips break off from use resulting in having to use elastic bands to keep them closed which is fine until the day comes when you forget to put the rubber band on and everything falls on the floor as you pick the case up (as happens on a regular basis with my 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 sockets sets not the plastic clips and hinges have all disintegrated over time).
I know keep all fasteners, electrical connectors etc in wall mounted drawer cabinets. Obviously not portable and wall fixed but very handy.
Obviously Ash has a mega amount of parts etc so he needs all those boxes!
I still have a few of the trays type that I keep woodscrews etc so I hardly open them!
https://ebay.us/m/kf1LGa
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Youv'e put me in a bit of a downer now Dave (joke) ..I have loads of those wall mounting drawers for my electronics stuff but these are much more portable. And I like the way they clamp to each other too.They are so good looking that Cathy even let's me take them into the house! The clamps look fairly robust for plastic and TBH it's not as if I am going to be opening them very often .. unlike say a plumber would if he kept his fittings in them. You look at all of those M8 12mm A/F and M10 14 A/F nuts and dread to think how much DS would charge you for them.
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The Festool systainers (system containers) are great for storing all sorts of bits with a fantastic range and in lots of varied sizes They were the first to clip together (made by Tanos part of the same company), if any parts gets damaged, they can be replaced, lid, clips, hinge pins the lot. They also do a range of transportable systems to move them around and a storage for them (Sysports) as well as being able to make your own racking system (with the help of their shelves). Festool only has one main colour (grey, although some limited editions can be different) Tanos (not as well known in the UK has lots of different colours available one of the main stockists of Tanos UK https://www.systemcontainers.co.uk/contact-us (AKA Bunnys Bolts) I have a large range of the Festool ones that I have used for about 25 years.
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The Festool systainers (system containers) are great for storing all sorts of bits with a fantastic range and in lots of varied sizes They were the first to clip together (made by Tanos part of the same company), if any parts gets damaged, they can be replaced, lid, clips, hinge pins the lot. They also do a range of transportable systems to move them around and a storage for them (Sysports) as well as being able to make your own racking system (with the help of their shelves). Festool only has one main colour (grey, although some limited editions can be different) Tanos (not as well known in the UK has lots of different colours available one of the main stockists of Tanos UK https://www.systemcontainers.co.uk/contact-us (AKA Bunnys Bolts) I have a large range of the Festool ones that I have used for about 25 years.
Bloomin 'eck they look classy and top notch ... but way beyond my budget for just storing Honda Parts
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Along with my son, we use different items and look at quite a few boxes etc.
Those Magnusson boxes are pretty substantial and resilient, there was all manufacturers at two different local trade shows for us to compare recently.
One at Kempton Park (organised by a a substantial local tool shop) many manufacturers bring whole range there to compare.
Another at Sandown Park, with different building trade focus also good.
I'd have confidence in most of them with the robustness clearly and substantially stepped up in recent years of manufacturing from each of the competitors.
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Along with my son, we use different items and look at quite a few boxes etc.
Those Magnusson boxes are pretty substantial and resilient, there was all manufacturers at two different local trade shows for us to compare recently.
One at Kempton Park (organised by a a substantial local tool shop) many manufacturers bring whole range there to compare.
Another at Sandown Park, with different building trade focus also good.
I'd have confidence in most of them with the robustness clearly and substantially stepped up in recent years of manufacturing from each of the competitors.
Is that the Kempton Park Autojumble Nigel? I've never seen anyone their selling storage boxes it if anyone does I'd be interested as the existing boxes I bought as part of my racking package from Big Doug have all disintegrated, they seem to get more brittle over time and shatter.
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No, not the auto jumble but a individual tool trade show Dave.
Its organised by D+D tool shop of Twickenham, and supported by all the manufacturers that trade through them, plus other individual suppliers. My son picks it up on "faceace" I think. Even drove me over there this year (I did help fix his car though :) ) it is is more build trade focused, but also with tools into automotive etc. Nit sure of frequency, whether annually or more.
Also two in last month at Sandown Park a similar arrangement. Build trades three weeks ago, and Mechanex (automotive trade mag I pick up at motor factor i use) specifically motor trades focus.
All no cost entry, even had a free bacon butty + T-shirt at Sandown :)
I don't know which form box you need, but Linbin was always very good in industrial stuff in the past https://www.richardsonsuk.co.uk/linbin-containers/c147 for garage fitout etc.
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Thanks Nigel, I'll look out for the next event at Kempton Park👍.
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D&M Tools in Twickenham, and their show is always in October. As stated, parking and entry is free and is a great show to visit.
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D&M Tools in Twickenham, and their show is always in October. As stated, parking and entry is free and is a great show to visit.
;D yes, correct.
My mind was trawling up a prominent local company from where I grew up, which although close was not this one :-[ they have quite good participation there from the UK suppliers. All bringing fair amount of stock to sell on the spot, sometimes with very good deals in promoting clearance for whatever reason.
The Mechanex one i found good for automotive tools (primarily car but obviously same area) which is organised by a trade magazine given out through motorfactor outlets. They have shows other than the Sandown one for different regions that may be of interest to others. Had an interesting chat with an oil blending company representative at this one.
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Here's something not often seen from depths of pure applied engineering practice
https://youtu.be/9bIHPY99mIY?si=6SKEhdz4viVgQYGC
Method of making and keeping surface plates flat for applications needing that.
The blue marks are all hugh spots, made by "blueing" a known reference plate with engineers blue, then rubbing this one across that surface to show the high spots. Those high spots then removed by scraping to refine the surface, ultimately to keep its flat plane as a working plate for workshop use.
Part of my apprenticeship in training, we didn't use the power scraper but made our own manual tool, to then manufacture plates.
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Something like this I've looked for over a long time.
https://nightsearcher.co.uk/products/i-spector-flex currently discounted too.
Nothing I've previously used has come anything close to this one for lighting performance, far better in every aspect and very useful for getting light right into awkward places.
Has side facing led (at two switching level of intensity) along with front facing end on led source too.
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Here's something not often seen from depths of pure applied engineering practice
https://youtu.be/9bIHPY99mIY?si=6SKEhdz4viVgQYGC
Method of making and keeping surface plates flat for applications needing that.
The blue marks are all hugh spots, made by "blueing" a known reference plate with engineers blue, then rubbing this one across that surface to show the high spots. Those high spots then removed by scraping to refine the surface, ultimately to keep its flat plane as a working plate for workshop use.
Part of my apprenticeship in training, we didn't use the power scraper but made our own manual tool, to then manufacture plates.
Interesting video Nigel. Maybe it's the angle of light but the surface finish looks like frosted glass! I remember the surface plates at college were so smooth the vee blocks and scribing blocks would glide over them but would also have a lot of stiction when you lifted them off the plate. I remember the lecturer going absolutely nuts when he caught one of us using the plate to rest a piece of steel whilst using a centre punch🫣
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Something in the tool packing/carry case that may be of interest to some
https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/milwaukee-packout-530mm-stackable-tool-box a friend has bought some of these which are decent specification, good catches and whole lid rubber seal to make them reasonable moisture/damp proof, helpful in cold garages.
This company as I understand split down bulk buy kits etc, and clear items that may be of too high stock quantity. Decent cost as advertised there, especially given the specs, with a couple of them at reasonable priced storage capacity.
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Got one of these from my son for Christmas on K2-K6's recommendation. Looks absolutely spot on ..thanks Nigel !
https://nightsearcher.co.uk/products/i-spector-flex