Honda-SOHC
Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: AshimotoK0 on October 29, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
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I did agree a few weeks back to get together a list of questions from us collectively, to ask DS directly (as he requested when he joined us on here early this year). Been away so not done it yet, remiss of me I know but everyone please remind me about the questions we have:-
He is now in the final stages of getting CB72 / 77 pipes re-manufactured BTW, which he displayed at Stafford.
From what I remember:-
1) Progress on replica HM341 and 500/4 pipes
2) Bad bonding / fit of pattern brake shoes.
3) Reminder about problem with aftermarket 750K0 fork stanchions
4) Fit of 400/4 replica pipes.
5) Supply of Yamiya seats/covers (already addressed).
Cheers ... AshD
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thanks ash ,
the questions (requests ) for 500 series spares are my interests,but in general,keep up the good work !!
John
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I would be interested to hear what DS has to say to these too
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Copy below of email sent to David Silver regarding questions from our members:-
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Hi David,
I have gathered a few questions for you from SOHC.co.uk members recently.
1) Progress on the supply of replica HM341 (CB750K2-K6) and HM323 (CB500/4) Repro pipes.
2) Some members have bought aftermarket brake shoes and have found bad bonding and general fit. Is this a known issue please?
3) On your aftermarket CB750K0 fork stanchions, I reported earlier this year that a member bought these but they needed modification to get to fit correctly and you replied that this is down to your supplier. A couple of us (including myself), are looking to possibly purchase these too. Do you have a contact so that we can address this directly with them please?
4) Some members have had issues with the fitting of your 400/4 replica pipes. Are there any known issues please?
5) Supply of Yamiya seats/covers (already addressed) and I am contacting Honda about this personally.
6) Progress on your proposed museum.
7) Do you know of anyone who makes replica CB175A (Sloper) exhausts please? Similarly with SS125 exhausts.
Best regards …. Ash
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Nice one thanks Ash
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Thanks Ash,please lets us know the outcome
I do have a particular interest in:-
1. HM341 pipes (bought some NOS pipes in 2008 for £99+vat each from DSS...happy days)
6. Museum open date...is it free entry for a/c customers?
7. Honda CD175A sloper pipes.
Alan
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I GOT THIS REPLY TODAY FROM DAVID.
Hi Ash,
Just back from Las Vegas on leave, back to the US again shortly on business hence the slightly late replies, please see below...
Best Regards
David
David Silver Spares LTD
www.davidsilverspares.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley Derrick [mailto:ashley@smartsolutions.karoo.co.uk]
Sent: 02 November 2014 22:44
To: David Silver
Subject: Question for you from SOHC.co.uk
Hi David,
I have gathered a few questions for you from SOHC.co.uk members recently.
1) Progress on the supply of replica HM341 (CB750K2-K6) and HM323
(CB500/4) Repro pipes.
HM341-good news, final prototype has been approved, production can now begin. I cannot give a precise ETA but at least there is progress. No more news on HM323
2) Some members have bought aftermarket brake shoes and have found bad bonding and general fit. Is this a known issue please?
Not aware of any issues, do you know which model and brand?
3) On your aftermarket CB750K0 fork stanchions, I reported earlier this year that a member bought these but they needed modification to get to fit correctly and you replied that this is down to your supplier. A couple of us (including myself), are looking to possibly purchase these too. Do you have a contact so that we can address this directly with them please?
They are made in Italy and the factory do not have any retail outlet/contact. If any member can forward diagrams/photo's to show how they are wrong, we will try and resolve this. I know that there are 2 versions of the K0 stanchions depending on frame number, this may complicate matters as production qty is very low.
4) Some members have had issues with the fitting of your 400/4 replica pipes. Are there any known issues please?
Yes-many hours has been spent on this, for now all sets withdrawn until the issues are resolved.
5) Supply of Yamiya seats/covers (already addressed) and I am contacting Honda about this personally.
6) Progress on your proposed museum.
Late 2015….hopefully
7) Do you know of anyone who makes replica CB175A (Sloper) exhausts please?
Similarly with SS125 exhausts.
Unfortunately no, demand would probably be too low to recover the tooling costs.
Best regards …. Ash
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Thanks Ash. Any word on the CB400F kick starter?
Cheers
Steve
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Lynx
Dont know if this is of use to you its for a 350 though http://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_moto/593402001.htm?ca=20_s
Cheers
Bitsa
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I just thought of another one, cb500/4 chrome trim for tank? Last time I looked for some it was unobtainable, though there were a few types that were close, the clips being the real hens teeth.
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Got a photo might have some off them somewhere yeah piranha teeth
Cheers
Bitsa
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I would really need a full set - possibly 2 if I got the k0 tank painted plus one length of the crome trim for the right hand side of the tank on my sidecar bike. I don't particularly feel having the clips in situ has effected the tank to adversely on the sidecar bike and they have been there for probably the last 40 years. But then most would be rushing that tank down the respray shop, I love the patina.
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Off subject a bit but almost exact replica 750K0 tank trim can be made from carefully cut down 60's mini car chrome trim. Have a reel of it somewhere. Has to be correct type though.
There was a time when Freddy was selling it on eBay in prepared cut down form for silly money before repro came out. I know 'cos I suspected it and then looked at his eBay purchase feedback and guess what he had bought the same mini trim as me !!
Cheers ... Ash
PLEASE REMIND ME ABOUT THE 400/4 kickstart question and any new questions. Got to hand it to DS he sure comes back with prompt replies. Met him in person at Stafford for a chat, what a great unassuming guy he is when you talk to him and his staff were really helpful too, seem to enjoy what they are doing which is a real change.
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Hi Ash,
Over a year ago I tried to order a repro kickstart from DSS for the 400. Part No. 28300-377-000. They cancelled the order and said they were having a quality control issue with them. I think it was about £35. At the Stafford show last year I ask the staff on the DSS stand if they had any news on them. They said they were hoping to have them available again by Christmas (last year). I see they are still not available. So I was wondering if there is an update on if/when they with make a repro kickstart again for the 400.
Could you inquire please?
Cheers
Steve
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Sounds like I actually need a roll of the chrome mini trim. Sounds cheaper and has other uses - I intend one day to build a morgan inspired 3 wheeler, chrome trim would probably feature on this, been collecting bits when cheap for years looking for the right look / feel.
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I am very surprised that DS do not know about ill fitting brake shoes. I have reported this problem to them a number of times. I have now had the last three sets in two years which have had friction material come apart from the aluminium and each replacement set has needed to have the width of the shoes ground off to fit in the cam.
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So bikes effected, by shoe lining bonding issues, cb500/4, ca 125, cb30250 nighthawk. In my case the brand is unknown, but would be whatever cheap options Dave Silver had in stock. If he has customer records going back a few years he will see what I have bought, though my most recent set on the 500/4 are still good the nighthawk was most worrying as front brake pads friction material came unglued too. Rear brake going wrong bothers me a lot less than both sets. I might be interested if there is a recommended shelf life too, some have been sat around a while before fitting. I am not one for blaming anyone, but if I need to be checking boxes for a date and discarding after a use by, I need to know.
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Matthew/Florence.., can you PM me details of your orders and I will get back to him.
Also need to look up what UKPete said about 750K) stanchions. Will also ask about the pattern 400/4 kickstart.
Cheers ...Ash
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3) On your aftermarket CB750K0 fork stanchions, I reported earlier this year that a member bought these but they needed modification to get to fit correctly and you replied that this is down to your supplier. A couple of us (including myself), are looking to possibly purchase these too. Do you have a contact so that we can address this directly with them please?
They are made in Italy and the factory do not have any retail outlet/contact. If any member can forward diagrams/photo's to show how they are wrong, we will try and resolve this. I know that there are 2 versions of the K0 stanchions depending on frame number, this may complicate matters as production qty is very low.
Regarding answer on fork tubes... anyone know if this is the likely supplier
http://www.tnk.it/en/prodotti7.php?mp=TNK%20GROUP%20SRL&cat=FORK%20TUBES&artd=FORK%20TUBES%20LIKE%20ORIGINAL&mm=HONDA
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From what I can make out :
Saisei Yamiya K0 stanchions :
http://www.saisei-europe.com/Shop/Products/c/front-forks/p/an-aftermarket-front-fork-stanchion-tube-set-fits-cb750-k0-k2
184GBP pair.
David Silver (Italian made)
http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB750K0-FOUR-1969-1970/part_29393/ 180GBP pair inc VAT
I am going to email Yamiya and ask them where their stanchions are manufactured and if they can guarantee they fit properly to a 750 K0!
Cheers ...Ash
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Ash, i do not understand why people go for repro's when you can just re-chrome them at £150. I have known people to buy the repro type at £180 and then pay £50 for new caps.
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Ash, i do not understand why people go for repro's when you can just re-chrome them at £150. I have known people to buy the repro type at £180 and then pay £50 for new caps.
I paid 9 quid each for caps before the hike.
Have you ever seen a pair of '69 K0 UK bike fork tubes? Perfect chrome in slider area.. moth eaten in non-chromed exposed area .. not worth hard chroming, pitting in non slider area far too deep for comfort. Otherwise, it would a big YES from me that it would be the way to go (Phillpots of course!)
Cheers ...Ash
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Ash, i do not understand why people go for repro's when you can just re-chrome them at £150. I have known people to buy the repro type at £180 and then pay £50 for new caps.
I paid 9 quid each for caps before the hike.
Have you ever seen a pair of '69 K0 UK bike fork tubes? Perfect chrome in slider area.. moth eaten in exposed area .. not worth hard chroming, pitting in non slider area far too deep for comfort. Otherwise, it would a big YES from me that it would be the way to go (Phillpots of course!)
Cheers ...Ash
Ash, i have had some that bad i had to cut the ears off and grind down the rust just to get them out of the bottom yokes. They still went to Philpots. Go a dirty look on that pair.
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Ash, i do not understand why people go for repro's when you can just re-chrome them at £150. I have known people to buy the repro type at £180 and then pay £50 for new caps.
I paid 9 quid each for caps before the hike.
Have you ever seen a pair of '69 K0 UK bike fork tubes? Perfect chrome in slider area.. moth eaten in exposed area .. not worth hard chroming, pitting in non slider area far too deep for comfort. Otherwise, it would a big YES from me that it would be the way to go (Phillpots of course!)
Cheers ...Ash
Ash, i have had some that bad i had to cut the ears off and grind down the rust just to get them out of the bottom yokes. They still went to Philpots. Go a dirty look on that pair.
Hmm .. maybe worth a punt then Trig.. they can always so no !!
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Make sure he does not chrome the bottom where the bushes go
(http://cb750sandcastonly.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/k0_006.JPG)
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Those look a bit like mine Pete. Going to asked them direct but do you happen to know if the Yamiya ones are made in Japan? I am reluctant to buy the DS ones because there seems to be no back up link to the tech details from the manufacturer or even who the manufacturer is other than they are Italian..
Cheers ... AshD
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I have no idea who supplies the yamiya ones, i am thinking of sending mine to be rechromed , i just wonder if the chromers can do it missing out the bottom area where clips and bushes are,
pete
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I have no idea who supplies the yamiya ones, i am thinking of sending mine to be rechromed , i just wonder if the chromers can do it missing out the bottom area where clips and bushes are,
pete
Bet they can Pete .. read a mag article on them. Really 'oldy worldy' company but they did a cracking job, years ago on my KZ650B1 been around Yonks
Cheers ... Ash
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If you are posting, just cover the area in masking tape and write DO NOT CHROME. The repro ones are chromed in that area.