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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB500/550 => Topic started by: Noelia on July 26, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
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Hi all!
I need to find some one to do the paint job.
I'm looking to do this;
Thanks!
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I would not trust anyone in the UK to do that. There is a guy in Germany that is a specialist in old Honda paint.
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I reckon Andrew Parnaby could do it Graham but it would cost quite a bit.
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Cheaper to send it to Germany with the good exchange mate
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James told me about this guy
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Since I'm not doing an original restoration project I will be happy with a good job better than a OEM finish. I have 500£ for the budget so it may worth to send it to Germany if there is nothing better here!
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Cheaper to send it to Germany with the good exchange mate
When he quoted me it was no cheaper than Andrew and that was without two way delivery taken into consideration.
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Someone have the contacts? I would like to ask for a quote
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Andrew Parnaby 07745595013 but it's a few years old ... he's in North Yorkshire though (mention Ash from near Hull). pretty sure somebody else on here has used him too.
This popped up on Facebook RS bikepaints but no idea what they are like but in your neck of the woods.
http://www.whitesbodyworks.com
James has the German persons details.
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The guy in Germany I use is Menno Dek. Great quality work, and he also chemically cleans / de-rusts the inside of the tank before painting.
Noelia - he has a 500 set already painted in Gold on his eBay store....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141727744788
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Avoid Whitesbodyworks. Made me pay £100 in advance to get a dint out of my tank and what arrived was a total unfinished bodge because it was simply beyond him. The guy is a charlatan.
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My tank and side panels arrived on Monday to Menno dek!!
Did someone send it to him? How long did it take?
Ta
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The way Menno Dek works is, You send him photo's of the job ie, tank and he will give you a price and a time scale.
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No mate, the tank on the CB500K0 was done by a mate who got the paint from RS motorcycle paints. Have had some other tanks done in Germany and his work is top quality.
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Just contacted Menno Dek myself with requirements for my CB250 tanks and man what lightening fast, professional, honest and informative reply.
Sounds just my kind of guy. Pity we have to go overseas to find such people. Not in any way knocking Andrew Parnaby though.. he did a cracking job on my 750K0 paintwork
Ash
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I will post pics of my tank as soon as it is back.
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Cool - did you get a timeline from him? Got the bike running yet?
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Cool - did you get a timeline from him? Got the bike running yet?
No yet! I've sent the front forks for rechroming, petrol tank and side panels are getting painted and Menno did not give me a lead time, how long did it take to you? I'm not in a rush the bike is in parts right now for powder coating I hope it is ready by the end of September I just need to get all the bits together :)
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Hi guys.
What would be the best way to contact the guy in Germany regarding a quote?
Cheers
Tim
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Hello From Germany: Menno Dek
« on: April 05, 2014, 01:21:40 PM »
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Hello Everyone. My name is Menno Dek. I'm Dutch but I work and live in Germany.
I've been riding Honda since I was 16. That is a while back by the way.
At the moment I'm specialised in spraypainting Honda colours from the seventies. I've done some work for other SOHC members.
If anyone has questions about colours or paint, I'm happy to anwer them.
Cheers, Menno.
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Re: Hello From Germany: Menno Dek
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You can find me here: www.tanklackieren.de
You can also visit me through tankspraypainting.eu You 'll be redirected to tanklackieren.de
I'm putting together a page on Honda colours, so if someone needs inspiration on wich colour to use for their next project you might find it there...
or visit me on facebook: tanklackieren.de
Hope to see you there.
Cheers, Menno.
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Thanks for the info Ash.
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So, as maybe some of you have noticed, after Noelia contacted me I've joined this forum. I'm not anywher near Sussex however mail is helping out a lot.
I live realy in the middle of nowhere in germany but I'm actualy from Amsterdam.
Anyway, through internet it is now possible for me to work wherever I live so I have customers from Sweden to Malta.
Normaly a paintjob takes about 1,5 month. That is also since I have the tanks chemicaly cleaned. (takes about 2 weeks).
The advantages of chemicaly cleaning are many. No more rust. Inside is completely new as well so that saves on cleaning and extra innercoating.
And off course you know what the basis of your tank is.
I've asked Noelia if she is ok with me posting some pictures of her tank (she said yes) so here they are:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150827_105702_zpstik6miyn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150827_105702_zpstik6miyn.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150827_105653_zpsbk0xrzpo.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150827_105653_zpsbk0xrzpo.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150909_103929_zpswbjuo8ph.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150909_103929_zpswbjuo8ph.jpg.html)
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(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150916_105012_zpsl1zpnddt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150916_105012_zpsl1zpnddt.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150916_110236_zpsjcihxrkl.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150916_110236_zpsjcihxrkl.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150918_135715_zpsay9xmket.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150918_135715_zpsay9xmket.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/20150918_140115_zps6vtr62tt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/20150918_140115_zps6vtr62tt.jpg.html)
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(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/DSCF6401%20Kopie_zpsqdo5mufv.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/DSCF6401%20Kopie_zpsqdo5mufv.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/DSCF6404%20Kopie_zpscmmhj9yb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/DSCF6404%20Kopie_zpscmmhj9yb.jpg.html)
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Will you be giving a discount for SOHC members ;)
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If you want a price estimate simply send me an email (tanklackieren@hotmail.de) and add a couple of pictures if that is possible.
Remember that most of these tanks have had a long life and it is rare to see a tank in such a good condition like Noelia's.
The Honda colours on my website are the colours I have painted sofar. It is not complete by far.
I'm just collecting colours like someone else would collect ... I don't know... stamps?
Some colours you can buy as a kit on ebay or so but there are also colours no one knows anymore how they are made.
There is a base colour and over it a candy 'see through' paint which gives the final colour. A bit like spraying a yellow metallic base and over it blue candy.
It should end up green as we all learned in school. However it doesn't always work like that. The paint in the 70's was different than todays paint.
It coloured more deeply but faded really quick. To try to reproduce a 70's colour with no real clue of what they actualy used is quite a chalenge.
For instance I did a Kawasaki super candy green last month and had a realy nice NOS sidepanel to match. However Kawasaki used a silver metallic base with on top of it
nothing more than green candy. I could not reproduce it using the same protocol. In stead I had to go with a blue metallic base and over it green candy.
And I had to keep in mind that the NOS was already faded a bit of course:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/DSCF6359_zpsoviufxav.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/DSCF6359_zpsoviufxav.jpg.html)
Honda colours that cannot be bought in a paintkit are for instance Honda cb 550 candy kent brown or Honda cb 350 candy panther gold.
Starlight gold I have never seen upclose. I know it exists but I need a good sample to reproduce it. Same for instance with honda cb350 four in black.
I thought it was exell black but it is actualy glory blue black. So there are still many colours to be discovered.
That is why I would like to give this advise: Don't clean or sandblast your tank before the colour you want reproduced is registered. That is when it's a special colour.
For instance a colour which you cannot find on my website.
For me it would be a nice idea to have a library of colours so when someone is restaurating it is easy to find the desired original like colour.
And therefore you are always welcome : www.tanklackieren.de / Honda colours
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Loving your work Menno and your commitment to a perfect job. It's great when people like yourself join us on here, so keep contributing and I am sure it will only add to your business. I hear only good reports from JamesH and Noelia on here, about your work.
My only concern is the cost of shipping both ways to Germany. Can you give us an typical estimate of the both way shipping please ?
I was told by the painter in the UK, who did my Candy Ruby Red CB750K0 paint set that the stripes were painted in 'Sunny Gold' metallic .. I think this was also used on the side panel badges and I am looking for a source of this, in say touch up form, as I had my side badges rechromed and need to paint them.
I am still prepping my pair of two-tone 1969 CB250K0 tank set's so that you can quote for me soon.
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Unfortunately I can only tell you the price it would be to ship a tank and sidepanels to the UK. I don't know how much it costs to ship it to Germany from the UK.
Shipping to the UK From Germany is 23 euro. (17 Pond sterling)
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With my Hermes I think is quite cheap! Check it out
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Menno, we have a paint company in the UK witch do very good paint match >>http://www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.php
The problem we have in the UK is a painter wants to blast a tank first and he/she does not put in the time and care to get it right.
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NOELIA......what did it cost you to ship your tank and sidepanels to Menno.....and what were his shipping charges back to you?
That should give other Forum Members a rough idea.
MENNO......if you are prepared to offer a discount to Forum Members.....and this helps to offset the P & P charges, I could see you picking up lots of work from here as the quality of your paintwork is obviously appealing.
Most of us are not looking for a speedy turnaround, but are more concerned that the preparation is first class and the finished parts are as good as the hard work and time we put in on the rest of the bike. As a Painter, it would be ideal if you have a number of jobs on the go so your 'downtime' is reduced.
Like Ash.....I agree that its great for Suppliers like yourself to involve themselves on the Forum so welcome and thanks for your input.
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@ Trigger: I took a look. Prices seem ok. Of course I don't have experience with them so I cannot say a lot about the quality of the paint and how well you can work with it.
@ MCTID: Most of my customers pay me more than I ask since it is very common in lots of countries to express ones appreciation of the quality of work I deliver by tipping.
I would be very happy helping people out on this forum with spraypainting tanks and sidepanels. But be aware spraypainting these tanks in original state with candy and lining correct is a craft, a trade. What helps is I do this a lot. It is not uncommon that clients have their tanks painted by a proffesional spraypainter end up with me. And I get to repair/finish it.
But most important; not everyone wants the same. So please contact me and we'll talk it through.
@Oddjob:
Something like this?:
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u404/Menno_Dek/Bildschirmfoto%202015-10-07%20um%2019.28.52_zpskfoky0uj.png) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/Menno_Dek/media/Bildschirmfoto%202015-10-07%20um%2019.28.52_zpskfoky0uj.png.html)
If you want your tank in Starlight gold painted to match the NOS sidepanels I would have to warn you that there is always a chance of not 100% matching colour.
Either accept that or have the tank and sidepanels repainted to avoid colour deviations. (use for instance other sidepanels and store the NOS ones)
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The delivery to Menno was approx. 20£ there plus back! So about 40£ i would say. Seeing the work on my set it worth to do it again and again, plus the attention that Menno gave me is 10/10. I've checked a couple of places to paint my tank here in the UK and the price including delivery was about the same but I didn't know anything about those painters and they seemed to be not very interested in doing it, not giving me enough info or not giving me a lead time either. Menno by far gave me the best attention the work he did is top quality. I'm a very happy customer!!
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I can echo Noelia's comments. I probably should have asked Menno for a commission structure as I've recommended him to Noelia and a few other members / non-members and everyone is very very happy with his work. Basically it's the old adage of you pay for what you get but Menno goes that extra mile and is a true professional.
Here's my 550 tank that Menno did a while ago now:
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You went for green this time James, any pictures of a brown paint job ;)
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Don't tempt me Graham....