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Title: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 16, 2016, 03:14:56 PM
Here is what I could buy, my first SC:

SC with low VIN 2000, matching numbers, restoration basis, US import

What I can see: wrong -  front fender, - ignition switch, - horn, - alternator cover, - exhaust pipes, - seat, 2-hole airbox missing, no "28" carbs

Everything else needs a restauration.


What is it worth? 5 - 10, 10 - 15, 15 - 20 k€  given engine is free?
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: UK Pete on April 16, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Going on what they are fetching in uk it has to be around the 10-15 mark, probably cost at least another 5 to restore, its worth what ever you want to pay really, bearing in mind though you said in another post restored ones dont really sell well in germany
pete
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: MeilakJ on April 16, 2016, 05:20:30 PM
As Pete said ,

It depends how much you really want  it .

Is there a price on it already ?

Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Trigger on April 16, 2016, 07:24:04 PM
I could stretch to £5K at a push ;)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 10:31:46 AM
As Pete said ,

It depends how much you really want  it .

Is there a price on it already ?

Actually, I don´t realy "need" it.  Being a little tyred and having not yet finished the current project.

But on the other hand I can´t see a project sandcast in Europe so that´s a chance to restore a sandcast by myself.
And there must be a project after the project.

We are discussing in the 10 - 15 k Euro range.

The good thing is, that I have most of the missing parts: new HM300, new red sponge Yamiya KO seat, double cut frnot fender, recessed ignition switch, rear KO chain sprocket,  a pair of newly chromed rims, a new painted ruby red paint set (by Menno, still in the box).


Guys, I need some motivation!!

Lots of "8" bolts,

And an answer to some anorak questions:

- Looking a the frame angle, is this correct SC?

- valve cover (rev-counter gearbox) : correct SC?

Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: JamesH on April 17, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
Uli, I think you really need to ask the seller to remove the tank & seat and take some better, higher resolution photos for you. It's a significant investment so you need to know exactly what you're getting into IMHO.
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: UK Pete on April 17, 2016, 06:30:44 PM
As James says with the pictures, and as for motivation and buying do what your heart says, i did and i was so glad
pete
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:09:19 PM
Got a few more pics.

Please check the numbers "anorakly".  Looking odd?

Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:10:39 PM
Frame Number. Odd?
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:13:01 PM
Wrinkle tank, almost toast ........   Menno !???
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:14:39 PM
Left side detail

Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:15:53 PM
Under the tank
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:17:26 PM
right side detail
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:18:58 PM
left side detail
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:23:24 PM
... and finally under the seat. Thats it. Buying or not.

Oh, and most important:

My wife gave me OK

(klick image to enlarge.)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:34:26 PM
Bonus is a nice airbox.

Until which VIN did thy had the 2- hole airbox?
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: UK Pete on April 17, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Uli, i dont like the look of the 1 and the 3 digit on the vin
Here is mine for reference to the fonts
(http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad90/UK-Pete/sandcast%20010_zpseci4wnnn.jpg) (http://s924.photobucket.com/user/UK-Pete/media/sandcast%20010_zpseci4wnnn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 07:56:55 PM
Thanks Pete.

I thought the "B" is odd, looks different on my diecast.
But same on yours.

The "9" looks special too, but again same on yours.

Pete, when you enlarge my pic and draw it under yours, you see "1", "3" "5" "0" are the same.



Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 17, 2016, 08:11:50 PM

The good thing is, that I have most of the missing parts: new HM300, new red sponge Yamiya KO seat, double cut frnot fender, recessed ignition switch, rear KO chain sprocket,  a pair of newly chromed rims, a new painted ruby red paint set (by Menno, still in the box).


Forgot to say, I have a set of "28" carbs with 5mm throttle cable that cry to be used.
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: JamesH on April 17, 2016, 11:09:29 PM
Hmm could be an interesting project Uli. Certainly looks all there...
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 18, 2016, 05:17:52 AM
If you are in it for profit/investment then get the sandcast. Otherwise your K0  is almost the same bike. Why not buy the rare 500K0 that Freddiethefatfrog  has?
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Bryanj on April 18, 2016, 07:18:44 AM
What I don't like is the numbers do not appear to be in a straight line which is unusual for Honda BUT i have had no dealings with sancasts so perhaps they are different
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 18, 2016, 08:45:05 AM
Now I´m stuck....

Are there more VIN pics in the net? (Have to come to a conclution today).

Edit:

Taking a ruler on your pic....
What I (hope to) see: CB750-100 is strikt in-line, numbers thereafter differ slightly.
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 18, 2016, 09:05:01 AM
Answering my question concerning the gusset, it seems to be a correct SC frame
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 18, 2016, 09:11:14 AM
Found that one on sandcast.only

Again, CB750-100 strict inline, rest slightly different (?)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 18, 2016, 04:24:55 PM
Fixed it.  :)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: UK Pete on April 18, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Yes gusset is correct Uli,and the early honda vins and engine numbers are always a bit off line, what is odd about your vin is the 1 and 3 look a bit odd, if you look at the first 1 it is correct the second one is a different font
 the 3 bottom half is correct but the top half of the 3 is not complete or the right shape, thing is if you have the correct paperwork, once the frame is painted it will be almost unnoticeable 
pete
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 22, 2016, 07:53:15 AM
Taking here out of a shelter full of bikes &  parts

Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 22, 2016, 08:15:16 AM
Nice one Uli   :) :) I reckon with those great parts you have already, you will have a lovely example there.
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 22, 2016, 08:31:08 AM
video: "Old farts takin´old bikes out of old shelter"

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w461/Uli911/badges/th_VID-20160422-WA0007_zpswydeesuq.mp4) (http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w461/Uli911/badges/VID-20160422-WA0007_zpswydeesuq.mp4)
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: UK Pete on April 22, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
Was that stashed on a mezzanine floor
Title: Re: Sandcast projekt ....what to pay for?
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on April 22, 2016, 06:11:25 PM
Thanks guys.

Pete, yes one of several mezzanine floors.
My mate, the one who sells the Z1000, discovered a K1 and rescued it.
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