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Other Bikes / 1964 Honda C200 Value ??
« on: February 14, 2017, 11:00:41 AM »
Can anybody out there advise me please ?    I'm having my ear bent about parting with my dad's old Honda C200 (90cc motorcycle style).  It's a 1964 model in "barn find condition" that I know the full history of.  Fitted with a full fairing which is unusual and I've not seen before.
It's been in my garage for years and I last had it on the road in 1987 so needs everything doing.  As to it's worth I've no idea what to ask, hence this thread.  I don't want to give it away but at the same time I don't want to frighten the guy who's shown so much interest.
Any ideas would be appreciated.   Thanks   :-\

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CB500/550 / Re: Alternative 4-4 exhaust
« on: September 20, 2016, 04:27:31 PM »
Well done you......... I've only just seen this post and I've always thought it can't be beyond the wit of man to come up with a way of saving solid downpipes and cutting off rotten silencers......... and you are that man, you've proved it !
Looking at the Classic Bike Shop site I'm guessing that you've used the Bonneville silencers and cobbled up some bracketry  ?   (Beats spending 800 odd quid for iffy replacements).  And they don't look out of place.
  PS Like that number plate !!

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CB500/550 / Re: Rough Running advice needed -- at wits end
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:20:41 AM »
I'm watching this post with interest because that exactly mirrors my problem and I've not much hair left to pull out.  :'(

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 16, 2016, 06:20:02 PM »
Condensers are new replacements from DSS........... It was one of my first suspicions......... suppose I could have been unlucky and got the only two new dodgy DSS ones on sale !!  :-\

PS One driver arrived from Japan super quick but the other one I'm still waiting for (unbeknown to me a different supplier) but I must admit a very nice fit...... work a treat.

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 15, 2016, 10:39:11 AM »
Wired up as Bryanj laid out, starts, revs and ticks over just fine.  Take it out on the road and I find I'm back to square one where I've got no pulling power.  (The bike not me...... that sound's conceited).
My next step is to try to borrow a strobe and check the timing. 

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 11, 2016, 05:56:53 PM »
So did I !!

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 11, 2016, 05:50:19 PM »
Well, thank you all for that.  I feel such a fool  :-[ ......... it's running again. (Between, "can you take me to Waitrose" and "can you take me to the nail bar").

Absolutely right; the insulators I'd put back in the wrong position. So now all I have to do is take a road trip during the week to see if the behaviour is any better and then an MOT.  I doubt myself now as to whether it was just dodgy fuel that gave me so much grief and I turned it into a "make work" project ?  ::)

Thank you once again Ash for your kind offer and hopefully you'll never have to dirty your hands on my coils !!!

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 11, 2016, 02:00:09 PM »
Thank you each for that........... I'm going out to play with it again now and let you know how I get on.   ;D

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 11, 2016, 12:52:06 PM »
Attn for Bryanj..........
 
Looking at my points insulator assembly setup for 1&4 (ditto 2&3) runs as follows :- running from the nut I have  1>nut / 2>spring wash / 3>plain wash / 4>insulating wash / 5>blue (or yellow) & condenser wires / 6>cont brkr back plate / 7>insulator wash / 8>cont brkr spring / 9>screw hd 

How does that look ?   :)
(In the Haynes book it doesn't actually identify the insulating washers from plain ones ?)

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 09, 2016, 12:29:34 PM »
That's very kind of you Ash.  I've seen your workshop setup on Youtube and it's enough to disturb Dr Frankenstein.  If you could email me your address and I'll remove the coils and get them into the post next week hopefully. (Life is a bit "full on" at the moment !!)

As Bryanj say's, I shall also double check the insulators.

Thank you all.

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: September 08, 2016, 06:45:08 PM »
Continuing saga.........managed to get five mins to myself.

"hairygit" test.  Inside headlight shell traced kill switch wire and with light bulb confirmed that switch operates correctly.
Cleaned and checked new points surfaces to confirm clean and good, spacers in correct position.

"seabeeowner" test.  With points open and red + of lamp on moving part of points, black - to earth, ignition on, should light up........... but didn't.
Test for +12v reaching coils......... good, test lamp lights.
Test direct from battery to coils to lamp across points.......... no light (or spark come to that).
It's beginning to point to both the coils methinks.     Is it normal for both to fail at the same time ??
(Perhaps an order to Wemoto or M & P for replacements as earlier suggested)

JIS drivers ordered I've discovered are coming from Japan so won't be here until Oct I'm told (serves me right for not looking properly).  I do have the original tool kit but was unaware that they were JIS and it turns out that my two embroidery machines (from Japan) already came with JIS drivers !!  C'est la vie.

Any other ideas appreciated ???   :-\

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: August 31, 2016, 11:18:16 AM »
Update......... I've just ordered JIS drivers on Amazon (although I won't get them for a few days). 
Spacers....... I'm sure they're correct but now you've sewn that seed of doubt I will double check !
Kill switch......... Will trace and test wiring inside headlight.
Today.......... Back aches, knee aches but will endeavour, given half a chance, to get out there again later and follow up on all these latest suggestions !!

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: August 30, 2016, 06:06:47 PM »
Thank you one and all.
Plenty of things for me to play with there now !  Point noted about JIS screws (for future) but I might add that I've now drilled the "B's" out and replaced them with M5 Socket Heads and having separated the switch clamp you still can't seem to get at the kill switch/wiring.
Tomorrow I'll have a go at "Seabeowner's" other suggestions if and when I get the chance.  :)

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:49:19 PM »
Hi Seabe, Sadly I don't have a multimeter but "collared" the boiler repair man who used his meter to check. (The coils were off the bike at the time).  I made a "buzz box" to check for continuity from the blue to the 1/4 points and ditto from yellow 2/3 which at that time was fine.  Put the coils back on, tank on etc., but had no spark from either set this time.   Checked again from blue and yellow and now makes no difference which side I get a buzz from everything so thought I must have a short circuit somewhere.
I confess, I've not done a direct +12v to coils but ????  Without the equipment I'm having to think of simple solutions which, I'm sure it only is, because it had been running and lost pulling power, faded but would restart before doing it all again.  So, looking in the Haines book for "loss of power" took me on this route.  (The fuel had been in the tank for about 8 or 9 months with added stabiliser but I topped up with about a gallon of fresh before draining it all out and replacing once more just in case stale fuel was my problem but as you can tell I trailed off in other directions).
Thank you for reading my tale of woe !!
PS You're right, "Hairygit's" comment about the kill switch went through my mind even though I rarely ever shut down using it but the sad thing is I can't get the screws undone without drilling them out.  (Don't you just hate crosshead screws ?).  >:(
PPS  If I'm understanding correctly, I've just tried +12v directly from battery to the Bk/Wh coil wires (and neg to earth) and looked for spark at points which wasn't there !!  Uh!

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CB500/550 / Re: cb500 four coil suppliers
« on: August 30, 2016, 09:00:54 AM »
The trouble is that I don't believe that the coils are the problem any longer.  In an earlier reply the coil rating was suggested as needing to be around the 4 to 5 ohm and I'm getting a reading of 4.4 ohms.  I admit to not being very clever with electrics but I do think things have progressed to another problem, like, I think I've got a short somewhere now !!     
At my age I just want to ride again, no time to tinker.  I'm prepared to cross palms with silver if required ?  :)

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