SORN ON A HISTORIC VEHICLE

[Nurse Julie]

Hi Chaps
Do I still need to SORN a historic class bike?. I have looked on DVLA but can't find the answer
Ta in advance
Julie

[Johnwebley]

Hi Chaps
Do I still need to SORN a historic class bike?. I have looked on DVLA but can't find the answer
Ta in advance
Julie

 as it doesn't cost anything,why bother,But if you stripping it down and rebuilding ,I suggest yes,just email the DVLA

[Nurse Julie]

My way of thinking John (womens logic !!! ) is that if it's not required to be taxed, it's not required to be SORN'd either. I was going to SORN it anyway but thought I would just try and find out the logic behind it.

[Woodside]

Hi julie im pretty certain you need to sorn it...why I don't know? I guess it keeps the robots happy

[RGP750]

DVLA and logic don't go together

[Nurse Julie]

Hi julie im pretty certain you need to sorn it...why I don't know? I guess it keeps the robots happy

Ah yes, the robots, that'll be it. I will SORN it anyway as no intention of riding it for the foreseeable. It's just one of those things that I would like to know the reasoning behind.....but, it is DVLA so probably no reasoning at all   

[mike the bike]

You don't need to SORN it as such but when the free tax expires it must either be -

• Retaxed (for free),  meaning it must be insured and MOT'd or
  SORNed

A whopping big fine if you avoid taxing it for free.

Hope this helps.

[Nurse Julie]

DVLA and logic don't go together

I thought you would have said Women and logic don't go together Rich !!

[Nurse Julie]

You don't need to SORN it as such but when the free tax expires it must either be -

• Retaxed (for free),  meaning it must be insured and MOT'd or
  SORNed

A whopping big fine if you avoid taxing it for free.

Hope this helps.

Yes Mike, it does. So even though the tax is FOC, in effect it is still classed as taxed. So it is the same as any vehicle then, either taxed or SORN. Makes sense I suppose.

Ta x

[mike the bike]

Ta x

The irony!!!

[royhall]

You still have to tax it in the normal way it's just free. So if you don't have mot and insurance you can't tax it. So under those circumstances it must be sorned. If it is insured and mot you may as well renew the tax. Daft system.

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[MCTID]

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[Chris400F]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the issue with this SORN business.
Any motor vehicle registered with DVLA must be either taxed (if it is used on the road) or SORNed (if it is not).
The phrase that historic vehicles are 'exempt' from road tax is a misnomer; they are not exempt, just taxed at zero rate.
So the choice doesn't seem that difficult really - if you have insurance and MOT for a vehicle classed as historic then you may as well tax it as it will cost nothing, then you could at least legally ride it on the road if you want to. If you have a vehicle not classed as historic you wouldn't question the SORN issue; there is no difference really apart from cost of road tax.
SORNing it would do the job as well; it still only lasts a year before it has to be renewed but it also costs nothing.
So take your pick. I see it as just one of the 'overheads' of owning a motor vehicle.

[hairygit]

Not quite correct there, from April 2014 if you sorn a vehicle it now lasts until you tax the vehicle again. I found this out when I phoned them to query why I hadn't had a tax or sorn reminder after 13 months. Apparently it saves them a lot of time and money not having to send out reminders!

[Nurse Julie]

I really don't mind either way. If I was going to ride it, obviously I would tax it but, I have no intention of riding it at present, therefore I will SORN it. I asked the question because it is the first historic class bike I have personally owned and wanted to know and understand the logic behind it. And yes SORN is now continuous until taxed.