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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2017, 05:53:33 PM »
not if the valve guide has been reamed out too much, it would mean another replacement job

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2017, 05:57:50 PM »
Plus if the frame has not been modified the rocker cover cannot be removed with the engine in place.
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2017, 06:37:08 PM »
I keep seeing references to "the rope trick", to be honest I had no idea what it was so I've googled it, cmon guys how the heck is this going to help? 🙁

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2017, 07:21:20 PM »
It involves putting the cylinders you are working on to just before top dead centre, the stuffing rope through the spark plug hole, as much as you can get in, then turn the engine to top dead centre to crush the rope, then when you remove the valve springs the valves don't fall down as the top holds them up.
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2017, 07:22:49 PM »
Sorry, auto correct sucks, the ROPE  holds them up
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2017, 07:31:09 PM »
It is possible to have the guides fitted with inserts instead of new guides but still needs the head off. SEP and The Cylinder Head Shop both do this. The diameter reamed should be 6.6mm I think. From experience car guys generally don't have the right gear. My local engineering shop will not touch valve guides on Japanese bike heads as they just don't have the right equipment and refuse to do a second rate job for some one. 

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2017, 07:53:22 PM »
the rope trick only works on indians...
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2017, 08:11:44 PM »
Ha, excellent 😄
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2017, 09:15:40 PM »
Started taking engine out today after I had been out for a ride . Bike dropped on to 3 cylinders . When I got home took plug out of number one which was cold . Was caked in oil cleaned it up fired on all four again . I've got pipes off and carbs and I've had my fingers on valve guides and I'm sure I can turn them . ?? Will find out tomz my mate who was following me was also covered in oil lol

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2017, 10:36:46 AM »
That's a strip down then Yozzer, bad luck but hey it's all part of motorcycling!
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2017, 02:22:27 PM »
Well that's the engine out and stripped no obvious signs that I can see . I've taken barreles and head to machine shop to be measured and valves

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2017, 04:08:27 PM »
If there is any wobble between valve stem and guide the clearance is too big

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2017, 04:28:23 PM »
With how much oil it was chucking out yesterday I thought I would have found something

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2017, 10:18:20 AM »
Here's a thought .. are the breather pipes from the cases and rocker box all free of kinks etc and connected correctly.

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2017, 11:59:47 AM »
I haven't got the breathers connected .but I did put one of those k&n types on the breather from the head . And that's when my problems started so I removed it . But it carried on smoking .

 

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