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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2017, 07:47:33 PM »
Phew, that's good  ;D ;D
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 08:39:31 PM »
It does look like that on pic.  but it's not  ;D
Yozza try IMD pistons, I have had. Few bits from him.

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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2017, 08:49:24 PM »
Thanks I've sent them a email

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2017, 09:04:30 PM »
Thanks I've sent them a email
Yozza just seen these on eBay, any good item No 292063073922
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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 09:24:53 PM »
Thanks I've sent them a email
Yozza just seen these on eBay, any good item No 292063073922

K and F2 units have different pistons and rings  ;)

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2017, 09:26:30 PM »
Any ideas trigger were I could get some cmsl have 3 sets in stock

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« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2017, 09:40:59 PM »
Any ideas trigger were I could get some cmsl have 3 sets in stock

If you can lay your hands on three sets 0+75, you can buy one set of 1.00 and grind them to spec. You must know what you are doing, to do this type of ring grind.

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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2017, 09:42:47 PM »
Yeah the bloke at machine shop told me that . But he wasn't too sure about the oil rings

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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2017, 09:45:19 PM »
Yeah the bloke at machine shop told me that . But he wasn't too sure about the oil rings

The oil rings just take longer to grind. Sometimes its the only way.

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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2017, 09:47:50 PM »
Cheers good to know if I can't find another set

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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2017, 10:43:05 AM »
Well I've managed to get three sets from cmsl and David silvers had just one set . David silvers said that the F2 had two different part numbers for the rings on the F2 so didn't know which pistons mine had does anyone know if the pistons are different or they just changed the part number .??

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2017, 07:57:16 PM »
This company does pistons and rings up to +4mm
http://www.scheuerlein-motorentechnik.de/motorrad/Honda/700-799-ccm-h7/cb750four-modelle/cb750f1/

Excellent quality, I used them on my F2, (they have them for Ks and F1s as well) I had the same oil burning problems went through 2 over size steps new guides etc, still burning, the cause eventuall found the machine shop boring  he Barrells  made the clearances too big, I did lots of research and consulted Hondaman (and his book)  I insisted on this clearance, the shop said it would seize, and wrote a disclaimer. I got the clearance I needed, the bike ran perfectly, and never used as to of oil, oh and it didn't seize.!1

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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2017, 10:23:04 PM »
Heres a similar link refererence 'Hondaman' info -
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=89779.msg1005284#msg1005284
I used the recommended smaller clearance on my 836 cruzinimage big bore kit - 850 miles and so far so good. I am not sure what clearance the guy who bored my barrels used on my CR750 current build - he may have used the standard tolerences (I am now doubting myself whether I insisted on the smaaler clearance as I did on the last build) - time will tell when I start it up!
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Re: Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2017, 08:06:16 AM »
This company does pistons and rings up to +4mm
http://www.scheuerlein-motorentechnik.de/motorrad/Honda/700-799-ccm-h7/cb750four-modelle/cb750f1/

Excellent quality, I used them on my F2, (they have them for Ks and F1s as well) I had the same oil burning problems went through 2 over size steps new guides etc, still burning, the cause eventuall found the machine shop boring  he Barrells  made the clearances too big, I did lots of research and consulted Hondaman (and his book)  I insisted on this clearance, the shop said it would seize, and wrote a disclaimer. I got the clearance I needed, the bike ran perfectly, and never used as to of oil, oh and it didn't seize.!1
I agree. My 350F was left to the engineer to fix the boring size, just left him the barrels and 4 new pistons. Although he did a good job I am now thinking its going to need boring again. Smoking on two cylinders and using oil. I'm pretty sure he's bored it to a standard clearance as he's more used to doing British iron and that has about 5 thou clearance. What is the recommended clearance on a 350F, Hondaman recommends .0010" to .0012" but that's for the 750?
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Taking engine out burning oil
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2017, 08:15:45 AM »
0.0008-.0010 anything more then it will burn oil (that's what he recommends for the 750 and worked perfectly for me. I don't know the 350
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