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Offline Dazza215

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Low Compression
« on: April 04, 2017, 12:38:03 PM »
Been struggling to start my 750 K5, refurbed the carbs, changed leads, plugs, points, timing is spot on, etc etc. Thought I would check the compression. only 65 PSI per cylinder.
I suppose thats what you get for buying a bike that hasnt turned a wheel since the 80's. (USA Import)
So engine out, valve relap, stem seals, piston rings and honing I suppose.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 12:46:23 PM »
Don't drag the engine out yet! Try a a teaspoon or so of oil down each cylinder, then re test. I assume you tested correctly, with the chokes OFF and the throttle held WIDE OPEN? If it shows any improvement, pour a little "Plus Gas", diesel or a good squirt of WD40 down each cylinder, and walk away for a couple of days, then test again, the rings may be gummed in the grooves giving low compression. Got to be worth a try, as it may improve it enough to get it started, and if it does start, run loads of Redex or similar through the system and the rings may free off, saving an awful lot of hassle! Good luck.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 12:54:37 PM »
Thanks Graham,
Ive done most of that.
I cant do the redex thing as it wont start, or it only runs on one cylinder. it flattens two batterys trying to start it sometimes and still wont start.
Judging by the rest of the seals in the oil pump and all around the rest of the bike it would benefit from valve stem seals etc so I think I'm just going to go for it.
If i'm honest, I am sort of looking forward to getting into it.
Thanks for the advice though buddy.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 01:14:08 PM »
I'm not Graham, you're confusing me with Trigger! You could try Redex straight down the bores and leave for a couple of days. You say it sometimes starts on one cylinder, is it always the same cylinder? What are the compressions like on each individual cylinder, as if they were all as low as 65psi I doubt even one would run!
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 01:23:06 PM »
Did someone mention my name  ;D
If it is as low as 65psi and from the states, don't be surprised to find it looking like this.

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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 03:41:45 PM »
Sorry Hairy Git. lol.
All of the cylinders are between 65 and 85psi. with the choke off and the throttle open.
The bike has run on all four briefly a couple of weeks ago, then only three then maybe one, then two, its all over the place.
Last night i tried starting it and only one cylinder was running, so i thought thats it!!! I cant keep blaming the carbs or the timing so its a complete strip down and rebuild.
I have already bought a gasket set and new valve stem seals, some lapping paste etc.
Plus with the engine out It will allow me to restore the rest of the bike.

Just need to see the size of the pistons to get new rings etc. 
Oh well, just adds some time to the restoration.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2017, 07:09:33 PM »
So, decided to strip the engine down. Found a number of issues.
The odd thing is the clocks say its only done 18.5K miles. (yeah right).
Ill put the pics on when i work out how to resize them.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 07:29:51 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2017, 07:31:59 PM »
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2017, 07:32:51 PM »
As you can see, nothing is sealing. no wonder there was no compression.
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 09:14:37 PM »
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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2017, 08:03:51 AM »
So, decided to strip the engine down. Found a number of issues.
The odd thing is the clocks say its only done 18.5K miles. (yeah right).
Ill put the pics on when i work out how to resize them.
When they are imported from the states they are all clocked to way lower mileage. This was my 350F that has only done 4300 miles from new. I knew it was crap but it was so cheap it made a good resto.


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Re: Low Compression
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2017, 10:15:37 PM »
So, decided to strip the engine down. Found a number of issues.
The odd thing is the clocks say its only done 18.5K miles. (yeah right).
Ill put the pics on when i work out how to resize them.
When they are imported from the states they are all clocked to way lower mileage. This was my 350F that has only done 4300 miles from new. I knew it was crap but it was so cheap it made a good resto.


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This was my 76 USA import....where the air is thin and the climate much kinder...


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