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Offline philward

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750K2 Coils
« on: November 24, 2018, 10:35:21 PM »
My standard K2's leads are knackered and as they are the original 40 odd year old coils am looking to buy a new set - are these KOKUSAN do you think - they have same part number on box as OEM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Ignition-Coil-69-78-CB-750-Hondamatic-Super-Sport-K-A-F-Coils-Spark-Set-W258/232799393802?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2018, 11:57:34 PM »
They are obviously pattern as both points wires are yellow but do come with brackets. Dont forget you MAY get charged 3% import tax then 20% vat on total of cost+postage+import tax then £11 to the post office for the privelage of collecting the fee to pass on to HMRC!!!!!!

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 12:12:56 PM »
If its the HT leads that are no good, check Ashes info on repair/replacement, works a treat :-)
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2018, 03:24:36 PM »
I have a set of Accel coils for a cb750 bought them on here a while ago still sitting on the shelf.
If would sell them on if they are of any use to you.
Thanks

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 05:00:21 PM »
I have a set of Accel coils for a cb750 bought them on here a while ago still sitting on the shelf.
If would sell them on if they are of any use to you.
Thanks
Thanks for the offer but I'm looking for some new standard or repo looking coils (as my K2 is in standard trim
Thanks anyway
Current Bikes:-
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2018, 06:09:45 PM »
No problem hope you get sorted

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2018, 09:20:04 PM »
I used wemoto coils on my build. They are very reasonably priced, look good and work perfectly. Maybe not for the show winning purist but perfect for anybody else.

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 09:39:41 PM »
Just bought these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-750-K2-S-O-H-C-1974-Replacement-Ignition-Coil/263456145722?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Done a lot of umming and erring then thought sod it, cant see them and only poodle around on the bike so why pay silly money
I'll do a refurb on the original coils as per Ash's guide (at some point!)
Current Bikes:-
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Honda CB350K0 (1969)
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2018, 09:48:06 PM »
They’ll be much better than the originals.... nice one

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2018, 10:04:11 PM »
Bit of feedback on the m&p coils. They dont bolt straight on - you will need to file the rear alloy bracket to accommodate the coils electrical spade fitting - otherwise they foul and could short. Also, the male and female bullet connectors are the wrong way round to fit to the loom bullets
On the plus side, the bike appears to run smoother than with the 40 odd yer old coils.
Current Bikes:-
Honda CB750K2 (1975)
Honda CB500K2 (12/1972)
Honda CR750 Replica (1972)
Honda CB350K0 (1969)
Kawasaki ZZR1100D3 (1995)
Kawasaki ZZR250 (1990) Project (Going on eBay ASAP)

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2018, 11:09:50 AM »
All I can say about pattern coils is check their primary resistance. Honda ones are around 4.5 Ohms. Some pattern ones are 3 Ohms' ish and this puts a lot more current through the standard points than they were designed for. If fitting CDi then that's another matter and a 3 Ohm coil will probably be fine. The other thing about the low resistance coils is that with the ignition switched on but without the engine running, the contact breaker that is in it's closed position will cause the coil to consume 48 Watts, so will overheat rapidly.

If I recall correctly there is a horror picture in Hondaman's book on the CB750 of the results of using low resistance pattern coils with standard points.
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2018, 01:07:39 PM »
Thanks for that Ash! that will worry me to death! seriously, how do I check the primary resistance and if they are 3 ohms, can the circuit be modified to alter the resistance (I'm no electrician but putting a resister 'inline' externally).
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2018, 04:19:51 PM »
Thanks for that Ash! that will worry me to death! seriously, how do I check the primary resistance and if they are 3 ohms, can the circuit be modified to alter the resistance (I'm no electrician but putting a resister 'inline' externally).

Don't have sleepless night as they say on Crimewatch  ;D ;D . You can check the primary resistance with a decent multimeter on Ohms resistance range ... or put a meter set to 10A current range in series with the coil and it should draw no more than 3.5 A Plus some aftermarket coils will be absolutely fine. You could put a resistor in series of say 1.5 Ohms but that would reduce the HT. However they may still be enough energy to give a decent spark.
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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2018, 04:46:14 PM »
Thanks Ash - I'll have a go later if the grandkids will let me!
Current Bikes:-
Honda CB750K2 (1975)
Honda CB500K2 (12/1972)
Honda CR750 Replica (1972)
Honda CB350K0 (1969)
Kawasaki ZZR1100D3 (1995)
Kawasaki ZZR250 (1990) Project (Going on eBay ASAP)

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Re: 750K2 Coils
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2018, 07:25:27 PM »
Just checked coils Ash - 4.2 Ohms, so I guess  that's close enough. (4.9 Ohms on old coils)
Current Bikes:-
Honda CB750K2 (1975)
Honda CB500K2 (12/1972)
Honda CR750 Replica (1972)
Honda CB350K0 (1969)
Kawasaki ZZR1100D3 (1995)
Kawasaki ZZR250 (1990) Project (Going on eBay ASAP)

 

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