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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #465 on: March 24, 2024, 12:20:22 AM »
oh

that wire Ash is to the Battery, as I said it go`s in the wiring loom and comes out again to that right hand side of that plug that go`s back into the rectifier so that should not be doing that you say ?

and still a bit puzzled at the regulator yellow/green to go to the yellow you say, and I have to join the yellow and the white to get the full output of the stator so is it to go into the both of them before it comes into the rectifier or do it go in after ...and I would have thought at the red coming out of the rectifier as need to regulate what's coming out DC not the AC, do you think you could do me one of your great little sketch`s of how it go`s please.

 
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #466 on: March 26, 2024, 06:42:48 PM »
well just a bit of an update.

today I have been doing a bit of wiring from the stator upto the rectifier and also puting the regulator in a nice place so out the way. I have decided not use the wiring loom wires from the plug at the tool box end as I am using my own made wires from as I said the stator to the Reg/Rec also joined the yellow and white to get the full out put of the stator coils...  they are all there just need the Master ( Ash ) to give me the heads up as to where to put them wires now I have them all ready to put on.

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #467 on: March 27, 2024, 03:33:56 PM »
Sorry Mo ... not sure what you need from me ... it sounds like you have the wiring details pretty much sussed out if you are wiring directly and not going through the bikes main loom ? Or am I missing something?
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #468 on: March 27, 2024, 06:19:17 PM »
Hi Ash

Yes you are right in that I have made a wiring up only from the stator to the rec/Reg but Not wired them in yet ( that's where I Need your help please as to how )

yes I Know where the wires go into the Rectifier but I am Not sure where to put the green/yellow from the Regulator as you said that go`s to the yellow..... But the bit I don`t get is it on the wire before it go`s to the rectifier ? as I said I have joined the two stator wires together to give max out put to go to the Rectifier but where do I put that Green/yellow to ?

Just my way of thinking Not being up on electrics is that I thought you would put that on the red coming out of the rectifier so if the volts got to high then that would dump the excess to ground.......... as I say my thought was if I put it on the yellow it would be Getting the AC voltage going in to the Reg ?

all confusing Ash to me lol.......... more of a mechanical I am lol...............

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #469 on: March 27, 2024, 09:19:30 PM »
That regulator is confusing I know. On the Honda system it's a 3 wire unit with a sense to the battery voltage but on the Kwak one it's just a connection between ground and the AC output.

I have illustrated the Kwak diagram . You need to connect the Yellow/Green wire to YELLOW on your Honda and thde black to ground (battery negative).

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #470 on: March 27, 2024, 11:43:55 PM »
Hi Ash

are so I was right then ( makes a change ha lol ) it do go on the AC side with the white/yellow which are joined to the rectifier.

Ok will try that out soon and get back with some picture when it looks a bit more tidy wire wise.

Thanks again for your help Ash

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1975 Honda Monkey st70 Dax ( Blue )
1967 Honda CB450 KO Black Bomber

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #471 on: March 28, 2024, 07:23:54 PM »
Here is the update Ash.

Well wired all up and the first picture is the Regulator mounted under where the Rectifier will be mounted on the top, the Heatsink which the Rectifier is mounted under that, and the other picture is a little gadget that reads the out put and that is with Lights On and revs at 3,000 ... but I will still do the test using the 10A on the meter ( Without the starter  lol )  to check that.... but i hope all should be there Now... that Rectifier do get warm Ash I Know it is meant to as why you said mount it on a heatsink which glad I did that.

So how do you think that is Now ?

Cheers

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1975 Honda Monkey st70 Dax ( Blue )
1967 Honda CB450 KO Black Bomber

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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #472 on: March 29, 2024, 09:30:27 AM »
Neat looking wiring.👍
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #473 on: March 29, 2024, 09:59:58 AM »
Looking good then Mo
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Re: 1967 CB450K0 Black Bomber Rebuild - By Royhall
« Reply #474 on: March 29, 2024, 06:44:00 PM »
Hi Ash

Well yes i hope it is Now getting there and thanks for all your help and Advice to get me there.... I can`t do any more at the Moment as got a bit of a miss fire on the Left hand side Cylinder, I checked the Plug and Replaced that also the wiring at the coils etc I have got the Carb back off and going to check all jets and put it in my Ultrasonic cleaner and put that back on but I can Not run it up as had to get some more fuel pipe as it was Not long enough as I thought that the routing of that was Not good and the New pipe wont be here till the end of next week now due to the Easter Hols, so all on hold for that now.

Thanks Ted I do try to do things a bit neat if I can lol as Ashley said also about the heat sink for the Rectifier so that`s all good now..........

Cheers all till the next help............ in Advance LOL  ;D

Mo     
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1980 Triumph Bonneville 750 T140/D Special Black & Gold
1962 BSA 650 Rocket Gold Star ( silver ) 
1977 Norton Commando 850 MK3  Interstate ( silver )
1977 Kawasaki KH400 Triple ( Green )
1999 Harley Davidson 1200S sportster Sport ( silver )
1975 Honda Monkey st70 Dax ( Blue )
1967 Honda CB450 KO Black Bomber

 

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