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Offline chris801

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What brakes!!!
« on: September 06, 2008, 06:55:03 PM »
Took my 550 for a spin today for the first time since buying it, im quite supprised how well it rides but the brakes are just completly useless, i knew they would be bad but i thaught they would be enough to stop it, so im wondering if i have got problems or are they all like it?

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 09:38:19 PM »
"They all do that Sir..."

Basically a poor design with inferior materials. You can get them as good as they are ever going to be by making sure that the pivot and piston are kept clean and dirt free and that they are bled thoroughly and adjusted properly.

Some people drill the discs - I did in the 70's but don't think that it actually made any difference.

Some fit twin discs - but really just more of the same.
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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 12:55:34 PM »
OK they aint as good as todays bikes but for their time were better than adequate.

rear drums tend to rust and go oval and front pivots sieze allong with pistons, some say the goodriche brake hoses make a difference but basicaly a well maintained system should have the front forks nearly bottoming but wont squeel the tyre

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 02:51:31 PM »
Basically a poor design with inferior materials.

Sorry Bryan. I should have added "... compared to the modern equivalent"  !!   8)
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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 08:57:08 PM »
Set up right, my bike is single disk with braided lines and it will lock up the front wheel, so they can do the job. The rear is just fine even with a chair fitted I've never had a 550 or 500 without braided lines
Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 11:44:23 AM »
I have a drilled disc in my workshop but I never put it on.  Does anyone know if they make any difference?

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 12:17:32 PM »
In the good old days (70's) they made a bit of difference.

Don't forget that sintered pads were a mere twinkle in the eye of a Ferodo engineer at the time.

They helped in the wet - I guess anything that broke up the smooth stainless steel surface helped.

With modern pads - I'm not so sure.

They do look nice though!
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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 12:32:20 PM »
Thanks for that, on it will go then next time I have the front wheel off.

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2008, 08:17:54 AM »
Mine works fine.
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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2008, 03:35:22 PM »
Now I say this from experience

" Who the hell wants a brake that locks in the wet!!!!"


Twin stainless, pissin rain, 3" standing water, R/H bend+ Old biddy not looking=

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Offline matthewmosse

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Re: What brakes!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2008, 05:48:31 PM »
In the (really) wet they arent much good unless you feather the brake a good bit before you actually need to use it to scrub the water off. Accept the bikes limitations and ride accordingly, eg slow in the wettest weather, after all, the tyres grip less too in these conditions whatever the vehicle
Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock

 

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