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carbs again!
« on: January 11, 2009, 05:01:16 PM »
Still having no joy getting this damn thing to fire on no2 (and I think it's carbs). I've rebuilt them with Keyster kits. Today I

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 11:22:26 PM »
I'll just about guarantee the pilot jet or pathway is blocked

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 10:14:15 AM »
Your carbs may look clean but as Bryan says you could still have blockages  ::), my carbs on my cb750 took 3 good cleans with carb cleaner and compressed air before they came to  ;),cheers Mick.

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 02:55:35 PM »
Thanks chaps, will report back,

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 05:48:06 PM »
I'll just about guarantee the pilot jet or pathway is blocked

Think your guarantee stands Bryan. Pathway looked and felt blocked, now all clean and I can see light through it. Re-assemble later and try again!

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 01:44:31 PM »
Damn! all back together and no better (well it does run smoother but still no joy on cylinder 2)

Here we go again...

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 04:14:04 PM »
try a new plug and carb balance---running with the bad pilot may have wrecked the plug

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 07:01:54 PM »
I'm not sure which plug is which now as I've been swapping them around to eliminate a problem plug. I'll swap this one with another just in case the same one has found its way back into the same cylinder.

Carbs are reasonably well balanced now - that's one thing I did manage to get done as it is running a bit smoother than before.

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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 01:20:41 PM »
I've got some strange ignition symptoms now, which might be causing or masking the other problems. New plugs fitted for this test btw, which happen to be DR7ES rather than DR8ES, as that's all I had.

I've tried checking the ignition timing with a strobe light today, and get some strange readings. It's the sort of light that you clip onto the plug lead, not in-line with the lead, I'm going to borrow one of those next - read on...

Cylinders 3 and 4 hardly give a strobe at all - the flashes are very intermittent and random (like a few seconds with no pulse, then a few randomly, then none, one or two more, a few more, long time without any etc).

Cylinder 1 gives a good steady strobe, but the timing is showing fully advanced when at tickover.

Cylinder 2 gives a good steady strobe, and the timing is spot on correct (which is amusing as this is the only cylinder I thought I had problems with) but from a timing perspective it's the only one that works properly!

Does this suggest wiring or coil or CDI problems? Bit confused by the fact that it's not got a problem in "pairs" like 1 & 4, which would point to a coil or CDI.

still planning to strip the carbs as I'm sure there is fuel problem on number 2, but it's odd that number 2 is the only one with timing that's anywhere near good.

I'm going to get some new DR8ES plugs, and change leads - any recommendations?

Phil
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Re: carbs again!
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 06:12:13 PM »
Depends on the quality of the timing light too I'd geuss. I got 2 draper ones and both do this, although they work far better once the engines had a bit of warm up time. Happens the same with points or boyer ignition on my bike and with several sets of coils.
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